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Subject: Re: Nice test potions from a Shredder vs Fruit 2.2, Avoid 31. Rc1

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 20:37:20 10/17/05

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On October 17, 2005 at 22:43:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 17, 2005 at 22:39:26, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On October 17, 2005 at 22:28:12, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 17, 2005 at 22:20:55, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 17, 2005 at 22:14:14, robert flesher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[Event "60 Minutes/Game"]
>>>>>[Site "Engine Match"]
>>>>>[Date "2005.10.17"]
>>>>>[Round "8"]
>>>>>[White "Shredder 9 UCI"]
>>>>>[Black "Fruit 2.2"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "70"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 {book 0s} c5 {book 0s} 2. Nf3 {book 0s} e6 {book 0s} 3. d4 {book 0s} cxd4
>>>>>{book 0s} 4. Nxd4 {book 0s} Nc6 {book 0s} 5. Nc3 {book 0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 6.
>>>>>Ndb5 {book 0s} Bb4 {book 0s} 7. a3 {book 0s} Bxc3+ {book 0s} 8. Nxc3 {book 0s}
>>>>>d5 {book 0s} 9. exd5 {book 0s} exd5 {book 0s} 10. Bd3 {book 0s} O-O {book 0s}
>>>>>11. O-O {book 0s} d4 {book 0s} 12. Ne2 {book 0s} Bg4 {book 0s} 13. f3 {book 0s}
>>>>>Bh5 {+0.01/1 0s} 14. Bg5 {book 0s} Bg6 {-0.19/16 1:52m} 15. Qd2 {+0.49/16 2:13m
>>>>>} Re8 {-0.16/15 1:07m} 16. Rad1 {+0.50/16 1:25m} h6 {-0.28/16 3:21m} 17. Bh4 {
>>>>>+0.80/16 1:11m} Bxd3 {-0.22/16 1:41m} 18. Qxd3 {+0.64/17 46s} Rc8 {
>>>>>-0.23/16 1:35m} 19. Kh1 {+0.67/16 1:16m} a6 {-0.11/15 1:41m} 20. Bf2 {
>>>>>+0.73/16 1:14m} Ne5 {-0.04/16 59s} 21. Qb3 {+0.85/17 1:06m} d3 {+0.14/17 1:54m}
>>>>>22. cxd3 {+0.56/18 1:54m} Nxf3 {+0.04/16 59s} 23. Nc3 {+1.03/17 1:16m} Ne5 {
>>>>>-0.02/16 1:24m} 24. Qxb7 {+0.91/17 1:39m} Rb8 {-0.18/16 2:13m} 25. Qxa6 {
>>>>>+0.90/17 1:35m} Re6 {-0.13/16 2:32m} 26. Qa7 {+1.41/17 1:31m} Rxb2 {
>>>>>-0.15/15 50s} 27. Bh4 {+1.05/16 1:44m} Qd6 {-0.10/14 1:33m} 28. d4 {
>>>>>+1.37/16 1:21m} Neg4 {-0.12/15 1:04m} 29. Bg3 {+1.20/16 41s} Qd8 {
>>>>>-0.05/15 1:08m} 30. d5 {+1.48/16 3:44m} Re3 {-0.11/15 1:55m} 31. Rc1 {
>>>>>+1.80/14 43s} Rxg3 {+2.83/15 1:00m} 32. hxg3 {-4.92/17 7:49m} Qd6 {
>>>>>+2.83/15 1:10m} 33. Ne4 {-4.92/16 37s} Qe5 {+4.66/14 56s} 34. Rc8+ {
>>>>>-5.14/13 43s} Kh7 {+4.64/14 32s} 35. Nxf6+ {-5.35/15 57s} Nxf6 {+4.64/14 1:04m}
>>>>>0-1
>>>>>
>>>>>[D]3q2k1/Q4pp1/5n1p/3P4/6n1/P1N1r1B1/1r4PP/3R1R1K w - - 0 31
>>>>
>>>>Fruit sees a full pawn advantage ever since:
>>>>23. Nc3
>>>>so it is possible that it was already too late by then.
>>>
>>>I read in the pgn that it is shredder that see the full pawn advantage.
>>>
>>>It seems that Shredder has a relatively worse evaluation than fruit so it does
>>>not understand that it has no advantage when Fruit's score is close to 0.00.
>>
>>Are you sure that Shredder had no advantage?  After all, Shredder won.  Perhaps
>>it was Fruit that misunderstood the position.
>
>This is your mistake
>Shredder that is white lost the game.

Yes, of course you are right.

>I am not 100% sure that Shredder had no advantage because it is possible that
>shredder lost because of a mistake after having the advantage but I believe that
>it had no advantage.
>
>Uri



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