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Subject: Re: a mistake of Fruit2.2Uri in CEGT (bug or another problem?)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:24:47 10/18/05

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On October 18, 2005 at 16:04:30, Heinz van Kempen wrote:

>Hi Uri,
>
>this was a very long game and I do not know what happens then with depth search
>in the end. Maybe time trouble, maybe something else.

My Fruit clearly get deeper in similiar time to the time of the game.

> I will try to reproduce.
>
>I do not suspect a hardware error here, as especially in this match run by me
>Fruit 2.2 got one of the best scores.
>
>Additionally I can tell that there is no hash bug for this version.

As far as I know there is a  bug that I already posted and called it a hash bug.
You may call it in another name but it is clearly a bug unless my hardware is
broken but I did not read that other people cannot reproduce the problem that I
posted.

see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?456243

It is also clear that after Rxd2 Fruit can see very fast that white is clearly
better(at depth>=14 the score is at least +1 for white) so if it force that
trade one move earlier at depth 20 there is a problem.


229: Shredder 9 Columbus'egg 9g - Fruit 2.2 Uri, CEGT 40/40 (2 Ghz) 2005
8/8/5k2/8/6p1/4K1P1/3r1P2/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.2 Uri:

142.Kxd2 Ke5
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
142.Kxd2 Ke5 143.Kd3
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
142.Kxd2 Ke5 143.Kd3 Kd5
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 3/4   00:00:00
142.Kxd2 Ke5 143.Kd3 Kd5 144.Ke3
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 4/7   00:00:00
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Kd3 Kd5 144.Ke3 Ke5
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 5/9   00:00:00
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Kd3 Kd5 144.Ke3 Ke5 145.Kd3
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 6/9   00:00:00  1kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd5 144.Kd3 Ke5 145.Ke3 Kd5
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 7/11   00:00:00  3kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kf6 144.Ke3 Ke5 145.Kd3 Kd5 146.Ke3
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 8/12   00:00:01  6kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.Kd3 Kd5 145.Kc3 Kc5 146.Kd2 Kd5
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 9/14   00:00:01  10kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.Ke3 Ke5 145.Kd3 Kd5 146.Kc3 Ke4 147.Kc4
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 10/14   00:00:01  14kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.Ke3 Ke5 145.Kd3 Kd5 146.Kc3 Kc5 147.Kd2 Kd4
  ±  (0.86)   Depth: 11/16   00:00:01  19kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.Ke3 Ke5 145.Kd3 Kd5 146.Kc3 Kc5 147.Kd2 Kd4 148.Ke2
  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 12/17   00:00:01  34kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.Ke3 Ke5 145.Kd3 Kd5 146.f3 gxf3 147.Ke3 Ke5 148.g4
f2 149.Kxf2
  ²  (0.65)   Depth: 13/19   00:00:01  43kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f3 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kf5
148.g4+ Kf6 149.Kh6 Ke6 150.g5 Ke5
  ±  (1.05)   Depth: 14/21   00:00:01  77kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f3 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kf5 Ke7 150.Ke5 Kd7
  ±  (1.24)   Depth: 15/23   00:00:02  134kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f3 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kf5 Kg7 150.Ke5 Kg6 151.Ke4
  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 16/25   00:00:02  160kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f3 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kh6 Ke6 150.g4 Kd5 151.g5 Ke5
  ±  (1.05)   Depth: 17/25   00:00:02  270kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f4 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kh6 Ke6 150.g4 Kd5 151.g5 Ke5 152.g6
  +-  (1.49)   Depth: 18/27   00:00:02  1549kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f4 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kh6 Ke6 150.g4 Kf7 151.g5 Kg8 152.Kg6 Kf8
  +-  (1.72)   Depth: 19/29   00:00:03  5210kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f4 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kh6 Ke6 150.g4 Kf7 151.g5 Kg8 152.Kg6 Kf8 153.Kf5
  +-  (1.93)   Depth: 20/31   00:00:08  14608kN
142.Kxd2 Ke6 143.Ke2 Kd6 144.f4 gxf3+ 145.Kxf3 Ke5 146.Kg4 Kf6 147.Kh5 Kg7
148.Kg5 Kf7 149.Kh6 Ke6 150.g4 Kf7 151.g5 Kg8 152.Kg6 Kf8 153.Kf6 Ke8
  +-  (1.89)   Depth: 21/34   00:00:08  14768kN

(,  18.10.2005)


Uri



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