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Subject: Re: KRRNKRR win in 290: a new record

Author: Yakov Konoval

Date: 22:50:26 10/18/05

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On October 19, 2005 at 00:59:32, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On October 19, 2005 at 00:49:58, Yakov Konoval wrote:
>
>>On October 18, 2005 at 13:10:01, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>Yakov Konoval's EGTB format:
>>>Is it described in a paper anywhere?  If not, any plans to publish?
>>>Are there any plans to make the EGTB files generally available?
>>>How do the files compare for size next to Nalimov format?
>>>How long does it take to generate 5 man files?
>>>What is the size of the total 5 man set?
>>>Are the files DTC, DTM, or something else?
>>
>>1. YK-format is much sipmpler, than Nalimov's, but hasn't been described yet.
>>2. EGTs are in DTZ(=DTC for pawnless endings) metric.
>>3. The time of generation one 5-man EGT is from 1 to 10 minutes. The special
>>version for 5-man EGTs can work 2-3 times faster.
>
>That is very quick.  What is the size of the 5 man set?
>

Now we have only pawnless EGTs in yk-format, so I don't know the total size
of the full 5-man set. For example kbbkn has size 11 MB (WTM) + 12 MB (BTM),
kqbkq - 12 MB / 5 MB.

>>4. The size of EGT usually is smaller than Nalimov's mainly due DTZ-metric.
>>And this size strongly depends of archiver. Now the gzip-library is used for
>>compression, but compression level can be much better with using other
>>libraries.
>>5. There are plans to make EGTs generally available. The main problem is the
>>huge size of 7-man EGTs.
>
>DVD seems a natural medium.
>

4 GB is too small for 1 interesting 7-man EGT. Only large HDs/RAID-arrays can
be used now for bookkeeping.

>How many 6 man files are generated?

This is the question for Marc. I think the full set of 6-man pawnless EGTs
in yk-format is generated - estimated total time is much less than 1 month
for Pentium 3.6 GHz computer. I don't have such computer, and the debugging
process was very hard for me. Only thank to Marc's verification test some
bugs were found.

Yakov




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