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Subject: Re: Fun Rating List.........New No 1

Author: Chessfun

Date: 19:41:10 10/19/05

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On October 19, 2005 at 19:34:43, Torstein Hall wrote:

>On October 18, 2005 at 22:05:04, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>
>>Top 40.
>>
>>Fritz 9 still to play 10 games each v Fruit 2.1, Toga II 1.0, Fritz 8 Bilbao,
>>Shredder 7.04, Shredder 7, Shredder Paderborn, Chessmaster 1000.
>>
>>All programs own books where made.
>>Fritz 9 using Fritz9.ctg all games at 40/40'
>>
>>    Program                  Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>
>>  1 Fritz 9                : 2683   38  35   230    62.8 %   2592   39.6 %
>>  2 Shredder 9             : 2674   31  31   310    65.2 %   2565   39.4 %
>
>Fritz 9 must habe a huge potential when it can play this strong even with the
>now famous endgame bug. Makes me wonder how it will do when it get fixed! (I
>just presume CB and the programmer can not live with such a bug without making a
>update of it.)
>
>Torstein

What I remember is that many here posted negative comments about the engine
prior to it even being released. That since CB hadn't posted many beta results
it therefore meant the engine hadn't improved. Others that since CB were
concentrating on playing humans their eng v eng play would suffer as a result.
Similar comments I think prior to Fritz 8.

Yet what we probably have is the biggest jump in a Fritz version for a longtime.
Clearly more than most expected.

I would think if any engine author is smart they would have had a very good look
at the source code of Fruit and seen what ideas that maybe generated in
themselves. I think Uri was maybe more blunt than others on that specific
subject.

Sarah.






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