Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Linares '98 Topalov-Shirov ...Bh3!!

Author: Charles Milton Ling

Date: 18:42:53 03/12/99

Go up one level in this thread


Not me!  It was Shirov himself who claimed that after Be4, the win was 40 moves
away...
Charley

On March 10, 1999 at 19:41:42, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On March 10, 1999 at 19:15:50, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 1999 at 02:33:14, Peter Kappler wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>8/8/4kpp1/3p1b2/p6P/2B5/6P1/6K1 b - - bm Bh3; id "Topalov-Shirov Linares 98";
>>>
>>>
>>>Does everybody remember this game?  It's from last year's Linares tournament,
>>>where Shirov played a shocking bishop sacrifice in the endgame and won
>>>brilliantly.  I believe that post-mortem analysis proved it was the only way to
>>>win.  (Please correct me if this is wrong)
>>>
>>>I watched this game live on ICC with dozens of others, and we were all quite
>>>impressed with Shirov's powers of calculation.
>>>
>>>This *should* be an extremely difficult problem for computers - but I'm sure
>>>somebody will tell me that Hiarcs or some other commercial program can solve it
>>>in 10 seconds.
>>>
>>>Just curious...
>>>
>>>--Peter
>>
>>Chessmaster 6000 could not find it after thinking for about a half-hour on a
>>P2-300. It preferred a3.
>>
>>Forgive a low-rated player, but why is this not a won position for black even if
>>he plays a3? I had Chessmaster play itself (30 sec/move -- not much but enough
>>to brute force at least 10 plies ahead on my machine) and black won easily in 30
>>moves, announcing mate in 7 on move 23.
>>
>>jm
>
>
>John,
>
>I don't have the analysis of the game in front of me, but in general,
>opposite-colored bishop endings are terribly difficult to win even when one side
>is ahead one or two pawns.  The reason for this is that the weaker side can
>dominate the squares that his bishop controls, making it much easier to blockade
>an extra pawn or two.
>
>In this position, for the a-pawn to queen, it will require Black to march his
>king over to that side of the board, but he must be careful not to allow White's
>king to pick off too many Black pawns.
>
>It's a tricky ending.  Another person just posted that Be4 is the only other
>winning move, claiming that the win was some 40 moves away...
>
>
>--Peter



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.