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Subject: Re: Position learning information ?

Author: Thomas Logan

Date: 04:45:31 10/21/05

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On October 21, 2005 at 01:22:31, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On October 20, 2005 at 18:17:49, Thomas Logan wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 2005 at 17:44:10, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>
>>>On October 20, 2005 at 13:26:32, Thomas Logan wrote:
>>>
>>>>Anyone know how Shredders position learning works
>>>>
>>>>questions, wuestions, questions
>>>>
>>>>Is it updated every game ?
>>>>
>>>>Does it continue getting larger and larger ?
>>>>
>>>>Is it ever reset ?
>>>>
>>>>Is it opponent sensitive ?
>>>>
>>>>Tom
>>>
>>>I can“t answer your question but a few programs like Shredder and Nimzo for
>>>example plays different in the same opening (after the book) and seldom repeats
>>>the same moves even if it was a win (hash influence?). Occasitonaly I have seen
>>>the same opening 3-4 times in the same match but Shredder or Nimzo often are the
>>>first to pick another line.
>>>
>>>Bertil
>>
>>Hi
>>
>>I can say I have seen very little repeat positions in my own shredder fruit
>>matches
>>
>>So book and and positions learning has not created repetitious games as some may
>>have feared
>>
>>Tom
>
>
>      Hi Tom
>      We seldom use the engines own books in our tests. But
>      if we do, learning is usually deactived. And even then
>      it almost never happens that openings and moves are
>      repeated with the exception of Junior and The King.
>      In my opinion the influence of learning features is
>      much overestimated.
>      Regards
>      Kurt

Hi Kurt

Interresting

Thanks for sharing your opinion

but does it not mitagate against a reluctance for using learning ?

If learning is of little effect its use should be  of ambivalent concern

Tom

Tom



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