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Subject: Re: The Cause of controversy & misunderstanding

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 08:47:57 10/21/05

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On October 21, 2005 at 00:20:29, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 20, 2005 at 22:22:10, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>Posted by Drexel,Michael (Profile) on October 19, 2005 at 15:17:59:
>>
>>In Reply to: Re: Huge Bug in Fritz 9 (Engine) posted by Eduard Nemeth on October
>>19, 2005 at 04:11:43:
>>
>>
>>No, this position was created by me yesterday evening to make it clear there
>>exists a Bug in Fritz 9. I could create hundreds of them, the specific position
>>doesn´t matter at all.
>>
>>While analysing an endgame position I got very strange scores. Fritz evaluated
>>a position -2 which should have been evaluated at least -6.
>>So I knew that it will likely drop pieces under certain circumstances and I
>>created this position.
>>
>>
>>
>>This is not an original Root Position.
>>
>>[D]1n1r3k/1p1n4/2p5/8/3B4/8/4K3/R7 b
>>Analysis by Fritz 9:
>>
>>
>>
>>A position was created; 5 moves have been made by White.
>>It is now Black's turn to move.
>>
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Ta7 Kg8 8.Tc7 Te8
>>  ³  (-0.34)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  72kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Ta8 Kh7 8.Ta5 Sd3 9.Ke3
>>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 8/19   00:00:00  169kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc5 b5 7.Le7 Te8 8.Lf6+ Kh7 9.Kd2 Sbd7 10.Th1+ Kg6
>>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:00  490kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Tb1 Kh7 8.La1 Sa6 9.Lc3 Kg6 10.Th1
>>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:00  1234kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Ta7 Sa6 8.Kf1 c5 9.Ke2 Kg8 10.Tb7 Sc7
>>  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 11/29   00:00:01  2285kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Th1+ Kg8 8.Tb1 Td3 9.La1 Sbd7 10.Tb4 Kf7 11.Lb2
>>  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 12/30   00:00:04  6291kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Th1+ Kg8 8.Tb1 Kf7 9.La5 Td3 10.Lc7 Sbd7 11.Tb4 Kg6
>>  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 13/40   00:00:11  15607kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Th1+ Kg8 8.Tb1 Kf7 9.Tf1+ Ke6
>>  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 14/38   00:00:30  42044kN
>>5...Se5 6.Lc3 b5 7.Th1+ Kg8 8.Tb1 Kf7 9.Tf1+ Ke6
>>  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 14/46   00:01:27  121127kN
>>
>>Making this an original Root position we have:
>>[D]1n1r3k/1p1n4/2p5/8/8/2B5/4K3/R7 b - - 0 2
>>Analysis by Shredder 8:
>>
>>1. -+ (-5.11): 2...Kg8 3.Kd2 c5 4.Rh1 Kf7 5.Ba5 Rc8 6.Kc2 b6 7.Be1
>>2. -+ (-5.04): 2...Kh7 3.Kd2 b5 4.Ba5 Re8 5.Rf1 Ne5
>>3. µ (-0.92): 2...Ne5 3.Bxe5+ Kh7 4.Ra7 Kg6 5.Rxb7 Nd7 6.Bc3 Kf5 7.Rc7
>>4. +- (3.96): 2...Nf6 3.Bxf6+ Kg8 4.Bxd8 Na6 5.Rf1 b5 6.Rf6 Nb4 7.Bb6 Kg7
>>
>>(, MyTown 20.10.2005)
>
>I understand that you think that the fact that Shredder8 has no bugs in that
>position proof that Fritz9 has also no bugs in that position.
>
>If this is the case then I suggest to agree to disagree about it and not
>continue the discussion.
>If this is not the case then I suggest that you do not post analysis by other
>programs.
>
>Uri

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