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Subject: Re: Well Put !!! Re: Moderation

Author: James T. Walker

Date: 12:36:09 10/21/05

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On October 21, 2005 at 10:54:36, Günther Simon wrote:

>On October 21, 2005 at 10:36:02, chandler yergin wrote:
>
>>On October 21, 2005 at 04:48:00, Stephen A. Boak wrote:
>>
>>>On October 21, 2005 at 04:36:30, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>The moderation team is getting annoyed by the constant emergence of these
>>>>>>threads.
>>>>>                So what?
>>>>>Tryin to supress free thought & inquiry here?
>>>>>Trying to restrict legitimate comment, and response to comments?
>>>>>Outside your authority guys!
>>>>>We can get annoyed by having to remind you.
>>>>>
>>>>>"What types of posts will be allowed on these message boards?
>>>>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and
>>>>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response
>>>>>messages:"
>>>>>
>>>>>Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess
>>>>>Are not abusive in nature
>>>>>Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others
>>>>>Are not flagrant commercial exhortations
>>>>>Are not of questionable legal status.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It would be advisable not to get involved in arguments resulting from
>>>>>>such threads.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Graham.
>>>>
>>>>The argument of free speech is so abused when it comes to _moderated_ forums, we
>>>>elect moderators through a democratic process and their job is simple (in
>>>>theory); to keep things free of topics that are against the charter and topics
>>>>that they find is not appropriate for CCC.
>>>>
>>>>The free speech argument falls apart already if if you have to answer this:
>>>>"can you use CCC to have lenghty discussions on automobiles or stamps for
>>>>example?" "no you can't!, take it or leave it". This should give you a clue that
>>>>the moderators are elected not to protect your rights to free speech at any
>>>>expense, but to moderate what _they_ find unsuitable for CCC and it is in theory
>>>>non debatable.
>>>>
>>>>However one concept that applies is free will and it is your choice to come here
>>>>or not and to follow the moderators way of implimenting moderation.
>>>>
>>>>Regards
>>>>Jonas
>>>
>>>Succinctly said !!
>>>
>>>There should now be no grumbling when the other moderation shoe comes down.
>>>
>>>Of course, I expect a spate of fake handles and schizophrenic conversations
>>>between multiple personalities (you know, the three faces of Eve, Sybil, etc).
>>>
>>>The expected price of 'freedom' for a private forum !!!
>>>
>>>Best regards.
>>As long as the Mods stay within the bounds of & Spirit of..The Charter,
>>I have no problem. I repeat"
>>"What types of posts will be allowed on these message boards?
>>Once a member gains access to the message board, he may read all messages and
>>post new or response messages with the proviso that these new or response
>>messages:"
>>
>>Are, within reason, on the topic of computer chess
>>Are not abusive in nature
>>Do not contain personal and/or libelous attacks on others
>>Are not flagrant commercial exhortations
>>Are not of questionable legal status.
>>
>>We did not elect them to interject their personal preferences, and bias.
>>If they do not understand this, and abide by it, they should recuse themselves.
>>as Mods.
>
>Well, I don't think we had this special case before?
>How should moderation handle posts which are stupid by nature and will be
>repeated in all their bright stupidness again and again?
>Of course there were single stupid posts before, either as trolling or
>as plain stupid posts, but those had no mass junk character and couldn't
>annoy that much. This is a new phenomenon and I could still not decide,
>if it is extreme trolling or extreme stupidity.
>
>Guenther

I vote for extreme stupidity but you can never be sure.  You guys who are
responding to his post should simply stop responding to any of his idiotic
ramblings period.  You are only adding fuel to the fire.  Anyway I have to go
back to my job of doing brain surgery in my basement.  (Don't tell anybody cause
I don't have a license)
Jim



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