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Subject: Deep Blue and Fruit 2.2 understand the e pawn , Shredder 9 does not

Author: K. Burcham

Date: 15:44:42 10/21/05



Taken from a recently posted game by Robert Flesher.

Deep Blue, Fruit 2.2, and Shredder 9 UCI block the e pawn by playing Be4.
In this position Shredder 9 UCI played 41.Bf5, freeing the e pawn to advance.
We have shown that Deep Blue and Fruit 2.2 outplay todays Shredder 9 on strong
hardware.
After the pawn advances to e4, the game is over and Shredder 9 loses to Fruit
2.2.

Below is Fruit 2.2 eval showing it avoids allowing the e pawn to advance.

 [D] 3R4/5pk1/5q2/1pp1p1p1/p1b1B1P1/P1P2P1p/1PP4P/3R2K1 w - -

Shredder 9 UCI

 15/27	 0:01 	+1.02 	41.Bf5 (1.051.478) 863
 16/25	 0:02 	+1.03 	41.Bf5 (1.797.390) 864
 17/30	 0:03 	+0.83 	41.Bf5 (3.203.090) 854
 18/30	 0:07 	+0.83 	41.Bf5 Qh6 42.R8d7 Be2 43.Re1 Bxf3 44.Rxe5 Bc6 45.Rde7
(6.449.236) 845
 19/38	 0:14 	+0.96 	41.Bf5 Qh6 42.R8d7 Be2 43.Re1 Bxf3 44.Rxe5 Bc6 45.Re6 Qh4
46.Rc7 Bd5 47.Ree7 Kf6 48.Re3 c4 49.Ree7 Qh6 50.Rcd7 (12.126.179) 822
 20/42	 0:33 	+0.94 	41.Bf5 Qh6 42.R8d6 Qh4 43.Be4 Be6 44.Rc6 c4 45.Rc5 Bxg4
46.Rxb5 Kf6 47.Rb4 Be6 48.Rxa4 Qf4 49.Kh1 Qe3 50.Rg1 Qf2 (26.911.829) 798
 21/44	 1:22 	+0.71 	41.Bf5 Be6 42.R1d6 e4 43.R8d7 Kh8 44.Rxf7 Qxf7 45.Rxe6 Kg7
46.fxe4 Kf8 47.Kf2 Qc7 48.e5 Qb7 (64.759.093) 781
 22/45	 2:08 	+0.46--	41.Bf5 Be6 (100.071.551) 781
 22/47	 2:53 	+0.04 	41.Bf5 Be6 42.R1d6 e4 43.R8d7 Kh8 44.Rc6 Qe5 45.Bxe6 exf3
46.Rd8+ (133.729.123) 769
 23/48	 5:11 	+0.04 	41.Bf5 Be6 42.R1d6 e4 43.R8d7 Kh8 44.Rc6 Qe5 45.Bxe6 exf3
46.Rc8+ Kh7 47.Rxf7+ Kg6 48.Rg8+ Kh6 49.Rh8+ Kg6 50.Rg8+ Kh6 51.Rh8+ Kg6 52.Rg8+
(233.919.089) 750
 24/51	 8:16 	+0.04 	41.Bf5 Be6 42.R1d6 e4 43.R8d7 Kh8 44.Rc6 Qe5 45.Bxe6 exf3
46.Rc8+ Kh7 47.Rxf7+ Kg6 48.Rg8+ Kh6 49.Rh8+ Kg6 50.Rg8+ Kh6 51.Rh8+ Kg6 52.Rg8+
(365.860.191) 736

Shredder 9 After learning

 13/22	 0:01 	+0.01 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Rd6
(740.024) 729
 14/22	 0:01 	+0.09 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Rd6 Kf7
46.Bd7 Bd5 47.Kf2 Ke7 (1.197.994) 737
 15/27	 0:02 	+0.15 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Rd6 Qa2
46.Bxb5 Qxb2 47.Rxe6 Qxb5 48.Kf2 (2.002.881) 740
 16/29	 0:04 	+0.01 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Red1 Qf4
46.R1d2 e4 (3.553.402) 745
 17/30	 0:08 	 0.00 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Red1 Qf4
46.Re1 Qc4 47.Red1 Qf4 48.Re1 (6.250.812) 764
 18/33	 0:12 	 0.00 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Red1 Qf4
46.Re1 Qc4 47.Red1 Qf4 48.Re1 (9.985.371) 777
 19/37	 0:20 	 0.00 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Bc6 Qc4 45.Red1 Qf4
46.Re1 Qc4 47.Red1 Qf4 48.Re1 (15.670.530) 782
 20/37	 0:38 	 0.00 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Kh1 Kf7 45.Bc6 Kg7
46.Be4 Kf7 47.Bc6 Kg7 48.Be4 (29.752.416) 770
 21/36	 1:08 	-0.05 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Kh1 Kf7 45.Kg1 Ke7
46.Rdd1 Bxg4 47.fxg4 Qxg4+ 48.Kf2 Qf4+ 49.Kg1 f5 50.Bc6 Qg4+ 51.Kf2 (52.144.698)
764
 22/40	 1:58 	-0.04 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd8 Kf6 44.Kf2 (89.760.525) 757
 23/47	 3:08 	 0.00 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd8 Kf6 44.Rd3 Kg7 45.Rd8 Kf6
46.Rd3 Kg7 47.Rd8 (140.116.491) 743
 24/47	 6:03 	-0.06 	41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd3 f6 44.Kh1 Kf7 45.Kg1 Ke7
46.Kh1 c4 47.Rde3 Kd6 48.Kg1 Kc5 (262.450.860) 722
best move: Rd8-d6 time: 7:05.688 min  n/s: 719.251  CPU 99.2%   n/s(1CPU):
725.051  nodes: 306.165.162


Shredder 9 After advacing the e pawn

  13/24	 0:01 	+1.05 	42.fxe4 Qe5 43.Rb1 (936.396) 730
 14/27	 0:02 	+0.81 	42.fxe4 Qe5 43.Rb1 Qf4 44.Re1 Kf6 45.e5+ Kg7 46.Bc8 Qf3
(1.594.503) 734
 15/34	 0:03 	+0.76 	42.fxe4 Qe5 43.Rb1 Qf4 44.Re1 Kf6 45.Rd7 Ke5 46.Rdd1 f6
47.Rf1 Qe3+ 48.Rf2 Bf7 49.Rdf1 Bc4 (2.582.639) 744
 16/28	 0:05 	+0.73 	42.fxe4 Qe5 43.Rb1 Qf4 44.Re1 Kf6 45.Rd7 Ke5 46.Rdd1 f6
47.Rf1 Qe3+ 48.Rf2 Bf7 49.Rd7 Qe1+ 50.Rf1 Qe3+ 51.Kh1 (4.131.786) 753
 17/32	 0:08 	+0.98++	42.fxe4 Qe5 (6.529.160) 757
 17/32	 0:09 	+0.99 	42.fxe4 Qe5 43.Rb1 Qf4 44.Re1 Kf6 45.Rd7 Ke5 46.Rdd1 Kf6
47.e5+ Kg7 48.Bd7 Qf3 49.Rd2 (7.083.381) 756
 18/30	 0:13 	+0.74--	42.fxe4 Qe5 (10.160.212) 754
 18/35	 0:22 	+0.24--	42.fxe4 Qe5 (17.085.753) 756
 18/46	 0:37 	 0.00 	42.fxe4 b4 43.axb4 cxb4 44.R1d6 Qe5 45.R8d7 Qc5+ 46.Kh1 Kf8
47.Rd8+ Kg7 48.R8d7 Kf8 49.Rd8+ Kg7 50.R8d7 (27.557.630) 740
 19/40	 1:03 	 0.00 	42.fxe4 b4 43.axb4 cxb4 44.R8d4 bxc3 45.bxc3 Qa6 46.Kf2 a3
47.Ra1 a2 48.Kg3 Be2 49.Kf2 (45.789.158) 724
 20/38	 1:32 	-0.21 	42.fxe4 b4 43.axb4 cxb4 44.R8d4 bxc3 45.bxc3 Qa6 46.Re1 a3
47.Ra1 a2 (66.974.883) 723
 21/43	 2:42 	-0.27 	42.fxe4 b4 43.axb4 cxb4 44.R8d4 bxc3 45.bxc3 Qa6 46.Kf2 a3
47.Ra1 a2 48.Ke1 Bf1 49.Rd2 Bg2 50.Rd3 (117.112.630) 722
 22/43	 4:24 	-0.52--	42.fxe4 b4 (191.637.124) 725
 22/43	 4:57 	-0.92 	42.fxe4 b4 43.axb4 cxb4 44.R8d4 bxc3 45.bxc3 Qa6 46.Kf2 a3
47.Ra1 a2 48.Bd7 Bf1 49.Rxf1 (214.670.740) 721
best move: f3xe4 time: 6:00.516 min  n/s: 723.228  CPU 99.7%   n/s(1CPU):
725.404  nodes: 260.723.706


Fruit 2.2:

41.Bf5 e4 42.fxe4 Qe5 43.R8d7 Be6 44.Re7 Kf6 45.Re8 Qf4 46.Rf1 Qe3+ 47.Rf2 Bxf5
48.Ra8 Kg7 49.exf5 Qc1+ 50.Rf1 Qxb2 51.f6+ Kg6
  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 17/50   00:00:22  24210kN
41.Bf5 e4 42.fxe4 Qe5 43.b3 Be6 44.R1d3 Bxf5 45.gxf5 g4 46.f6+ Qxf6 47.bxa4 bxa4
48.R8d7 Qf4 49.Rd2 Qxe4 50.Rf2 Qe1+ 51.Rf1 Qe3+ 52.Rf2 Qc1+ 53.Rf1
  µ  (-1.23)   Depth: 18/52   00:01:02  69387kN
41.R8d7 b4 42.R7d6 Qf4 43.Re1 bxa3 44.bxa3 Be6 45.Rd8 Kf6 46.Rdd1 Ke7 47.Bd5 c4
48.Bc6 f6 49.Re2 Kf7 50.Kf1
  µ  (-0.90)   Depth: 18/52   00:01:45  114303kN
41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd8 Kf6 44.Rd3 Bc4 45.Rd7 Ke6 46.Bc6 f6 47.Rd8 Kf7
48.Be4 Be6 49.Bc6 Ke7
  ³  (-0.70)   Depth: 18/52   00:01:53  123240kN
41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Be6 43.Rd8 f6 44.Rd3 Kf8 45.Rd8+ Ke7 46.Rdd1 Bd7 47.Re2 Bc8
48.Bc6 Be6 49.Ree1 Qc4 50.Kf2 Qf4
  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 19/52   00:02:05  136534kN
41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Kf8 43.Bc6 Ke7 44.Rd7+ Kf6 45.Rdd1 Kg7 46.Be4 Kf8 47.Rd6 Be6
48.Rd3 f6 49.Rd8+ Ke7 50.Rdd1 Ke8 51.Bc6+ Kf7 52.Bxb5 Qxf3
  ³  (-0.70)   Depth: 20/52   00:02:41  176506kN
41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Kf8 43.Bc6 Ke7 44.Rd7+ Kf6 45.Rdd1 Kg7 46.Be4 Kf8 47.Rd6 Ke7
48.Rdd1 Be6 49.Bc6 f6 50.Be4 Ke8 51.Bc6+ Kf7 52.Bxb5 Qxf3
  ³  (-0.70)   Depth: 21/54   00:04:28  284233kN
41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Kf8 43.Bc6 Ke7 44.Rd7+ Kf6 45.Rdd1 Kg7 46.Be4 Kf8 47.Rd6 Ke7
48.Rdd1 Be6 49.Bc6 f6 50.Be4 Kf8 51.Rd8+ Kf7 52.Rd6 Ke7
  µ  (-0.71)   Depth: 22/58   00:06:51  425415kN
41.R8d6 Qf4 42.Re1 Kf8 43.Bc6 Ke7 44.Rd7+ Kf6 45.Rdd1 Kg7 46.Be4 Kf8 47.Rd8+ Ke7
48.Rdd1 Be6 49.Bc6 f6 50.Be4 Kf7 51.Rd8 Kg7 52.Kh1 Bc4 53.Red1
  ³  (-0.70)   Depth: 23/61   00:17:52  1095580kN



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