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Subject: Re: Testposition - Fritz 8 is NOT blind!

Author: Mike Hood

Date: 21:24:52 10/21/05

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On October 22, 2005 at 00:11:59, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 21, 2005 at 22:37:20, Mike Hood wrote:
>
>>On October 21, 2005 at 06:58:31, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>>[D]5r2/p1p2qpk/1p1pp1np/4p3/4P3/2P1NrP1/PPP1QPKP/3R1R2 b - - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Anyway! Which program can find here 20...Nf4+ ?
>>>
>>>On my P3 600 MHz, Fritz 8 is blind!
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>>>
>>>1...Tf4 2.Sc4 Tf6 3.Kg1 Kh8 4.Se3 Se7 5.Td2 Sc6 6.Dc4 Sd8 7.De2 Kg8
>>>³ (-0.53) Tiefe: 13/35 00:01:28 25414kN
>>>1...Tf4--
>>>= (-0.25) Tiefe: 14/36 00:02:59 55206kN
>>>1...Tf4 2.Kg1 Txe4 3.b4 Df5 4.f3 Txe3 5.Dxe3 Dxc2 6.Td2 Df5 7.b5 Kg8
>>>= (-0.09) Tiefe: 14/37 00:03:27 64592kN
>>>1...Se7!
>>>= (-0.13) Tiefe: 14/37 00:03:39 68615kN
>>>1...Se7!
>>>³ (-0.28) Tiefe: 14/37 00:04:01 75420kN
>>>1...Se7 2.a4 Dh5 3.Tde1 Sg6 4.Dc4 T3f7 5.Kg1 Te8 6.De2 Df3 7.Dxf3
>>>³ (-0.44) Tiefe: 14/40 00:06:26 121444kN
>>>
>>
>>Hallo Eduard!
>>
>>What version of Fritz 8 are you using? This is what Fritz 8, version 8.1.2.0,
>>says on my Pentium 4, 2.8 GHz. Note that Fritz 8 picks Nf4+ after 0 seconds,
>>changes to Ne7 after 2 seconds, but changes back to Nf4+ and sticks with it
>>after 6 seconds.
>
>If Fritz8.1.2.0 is Fritz8 Bilbao then I think that most people with Fritz8 do
>not have it.
>
>My Fritz8 needs depth 17 and 5 minutes to converge to Nf4
>
>New game,
>5r2/p1p2qpk/1p1pp1np/4p3/4P3/2P1NrP1/PPP1QPKP/3R1R2 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fritz 8:
>
>1...Rf4--
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  71kN
>1...Rf4 2.f3 Qf6 3.Ng4
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 7/19   00:00:00  75kN
>1...a6!
>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:00  115kN
>1...a6 2.Kg1 Nh8 3.Qxa6 Rxf2 4.Ng4 Rf3 5.Qc4
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  215kN
>1...Ne7!
>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  296kN
>1...Ne7!
>  µ  (-0.72)   Depth: 8/27   00:00:00  446kN
>1...Ne7 2.Rd2 Kg8 3.Ng4 Ng6 4.Rd3 Rf4 5.Kg1 Rf3 6.Rxf3
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:00  1057kN
>1...Qf6!
>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 9/28   00:00:01  1332kN
>1...a5!
>  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 9/32   00:00:01  1802kN
>1...a5 2.Ng4 a4 3.Rd3 Rxd3 4.cxd3 Kg8 5.Ne3 Qf6 6.Qg4 c6
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:02  2897kN
>1...Qf6!
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:02  3139kN
>1...Qf6 2.Kg1 Qg5 3.Qc4 Qe7 4.Qa6 Qf7 5.Rd2 Ne7 6.Qxa7
>  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 10/28   00:00:02  3283kN
>1...Ne7!
>  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:03  3676kN
>1...Ne7 2.Rd2 Kg8 3.Kh1 Qh5 4.Kg2 Kh7 5.c4 Ng6
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:05  6310kN
>1...Ne7 2.Kg1 Ng8 3.Rd2 Qh5 4.Ng2 Qg5 5.Rd3 R3f6 6.h4 Qg6 7.h5 Qg5
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 12/36   00:00:13  16523kN
>1...Qf6!
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 12/36   00:00:14  17800kN
>1...Qf6 2.Kg1 Qg5 3.Rd3 a6 4.Ng2 Qg4 5.Rxf3 Rxf3 6.Qc4 d5
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 12/36   00:00:16  19691kN
>1...Qf6 2.Kg1 Qg5 3.Ng2 Qg4 4.Rd2 h5 5.Ne1 Nf4 6.Qc4 Nh3+ 7.Kg2 Ng5 8.Nxf3 Qxf3+
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:21  26287kN
>1...Rf4!
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 13/36   00:00:29  38003kN
>1...Rf4--
>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:41  53203kN
>1...Rf4 2.Kg1 Rxe4 3.b4 Qf5 4.f3 Rxe3 5.Qxe3 Qxc2 6.Rd2 Qf5 7.b5 Kg8 8.a3
>  =  (-0.09)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:46  60266kN
>1...Qf6!
>  =  (-0.13)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:49  63467kN
>1...Qf6!
>  ³  (-0.28)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:50  65079kN
>1...Qf6 2.Kg1 Qg5 3.Ng2 a5 4.Rd3 R3f7 5.h4 Qf6 6.h5 Ne7 7.f4 exf4 8.Rdf3 Qg5
>9.Nxf4
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 14/37   00:00:55  71583kN
>1...Nf4+!
>  ³  (-0.53)   Depth: 14/40   00:00:59  77906kN
>1...Nf4+ 2.gxf4 Qg6+ 3.Kh1 Qxe4 4.Kg1 Rf6 5.f5 exf5 6.Rfe1 Rg6+ 7.Kf1
>  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 15/37   00:01:12  95111kN
>1...Qf6!
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 15/37   00:01:22  109084kN
>1...Qf6 2.Kg1 Qg5 3.Ng2 a5 4.Rd3 R3f7 5.h4 Qf6 6.h5 Ne7 7.f4 exf4 8.Rdf3 Ng6
>9.hxg6+
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 16/43   00:03:01  242198kN
>1...Qf6 2.Kg1 Qg5 3.Ng2 a5 4.Rd3 R3f7 5.h4 Qf6 6.h5 Ne7 7.Rdd1 Qg5 8.Qc4 Qxh5
>  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 17/41   00:04:50  394032kN
>1...Nf4+!
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 17/45   00:05:03  411700kN
>1...Nf4+!
>  ³  (-0.63)   Depth: 17/45   00:05:07  416674kN
>1...Nf4+ 2.gxf4 Qg6+ 3.Kh1 Qxe4 4.Kg1 Rf6 5.f5 exf5 6.Rfe1 Rg6+ 7.Kf1 Rh3 8.Qd3
>Qh1+ 9.Ke2 Qf3+ 10.Kd2 f4 11.Nf1
>  µ  (-0.81)   Depth: 17/45   00:05:27  445393kN
>
>(,  22.10.2005)

Uri, I have the "Fritz 8 Champion Edition". I assume that's the Bilbao version.
It's interesting how much difference the "minor upgrades" make.



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