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Subject: Re: Nightmare position 13

Author: John Merlino

Date: 15:15:09 10/22/05

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On October 22, 2005 at 12:24:31, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>For position 13, the following analysis is given by Walter Eigenmann
>(http://www.beepworld.de/members38/eigenmann/nightmare.htm):
>
>[Event "Akopian-Khenkin, Tilburg 1994"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Nightmare Nr.013"]
>[Black "?"]
>[Result "*"]
>[Annotator "W.Eigenmann"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "r1bqk1r1/1p1p1n2/p1n2pN1/2p1b2Q/2P1Pp2/1PN5/PB1P2PP/R4RK1 w q - 0 15"]
>[PlyCount "7"]
>[Source "Walter Eigenman"]
>[SourceDate "2005.09.30"]
>
>15. Rxf4 $36 Bxf4 (15... Bd4+ 16. Kh1 Nce5 17. Nxe5 Bxe5 18. Raf1 $40) 16. Nd5
>Nce5 (16... Bg5 17. Rf1 Nd4 (17... Rxg6 18. Qxg6 $18) 18. h4 $18) 17. Ndxf4 d6
>(17... Rxg6 18. Nxg6 d6 19. Rf1 $40) 18. Rf1 $40 *
>
>I am just watching Yace analysing this position. It thought for a long time for
>15. Rxf4 at depth 15, and finally "refuted" it by 15... d6, a move not
>considered in Walter's analysis. Can anybody give some analysis after Rxf4 d6?
>
>[D] r1bqk1r1/1p3n2/p1np1pN1/2p1b2Q/2P1PR2/1PN5/PB1P2PP/R5K1 w q - 0 16
>
>Regards,
>Dieter
>
>PS. Thanks for the replies to my post about pos. 9, but my question was not
>really answered. Is Bf6 enough to hold a draw?

After 15.Rxf4 d6, CM9_R1 on a P4-2.4 gives White a slight edge after 16.Raf1!
Bxf4 17.Nd5!

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/6	-0.18	46937		16.Qh7 Rxg6 17.Qxg6 Ne7 18.Qg3
					Bxf4 19.Qxf4 f5 20.Rf1
0:00	1/7	-0.37	86484		16.Qh7 Rxg6 17.Qxg6 Ne7 18.Qg3
					Bxf4 19.Qxf4 f5 20.Qh4 Be6
0:01	1/7	-0.25	155509		16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Rf2 Bg4 18.Qh7
					Kf8 19.Nd5 Rg7
0:01	1/8	-0.55	315343		16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Rf2 Bg4 18.Qh7
					Kf8 19.Ba3 Qd4 20.Rf1 Rg7
0:06	1/9	-0.26	1115404		16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Rf2 Be6 18.Nd5
					Bxd5 19.cxd5 Rg5 20.Qh3 Nd4 21.Bxd4
					exd4
0:14	1/10	-0.43	2731882		16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Rf2 Nb4 18.Nd5
					Nxd5 19.cxd5 Bg4 20.Qh7 Kf8 21.Rc1
					Rg7
0:42	1/11	-0.59	8499655		16.Nxe5 dxe5 17.Rf2 Bg4 18.Qh4
					f5 19.Qxd8+ Kxd8 20.exf5 Nd6 21.Ba3
					b6 22.Nd5 Bxf5 23.Nxb6
1:03	1/11	-0.38	12869821	16.Qh7 Rxg6 17.Qxg6 Ne7 18.Qg3
					Ng5 19.Qh4 Bxf4 20.Qxf4 Ng6 21.Qg3
					Kf7 22.Rf1
1:49	1/12	-0.42	22038307	16.Qh7 Rxg6 17.Qxg6 Ne7 18.Qg3
					b5 19.Nd1 Bxf4 20.Qxf4 bxc4 21.Bxf6
					cxb3 22.axb3 Ng6 23.Qf3 Ng5
3:07	1/12	-0.30	38452332	16.Raf1 Bxf4 17.Nd5 Nce5 18.Ndxf4
					Rg7 19.Bxe5 dxe5 20.Nd5 f5 21.Nxe5
					Be6
5:21	1/13	-0.09	66515629	16.Raf1 Bxf4 17.Nd5 Nce5 18.Ndxf4
					Nxg6 19.Nxg6 Be6 20.Bxf6 Qa5 21.Ne7
					Bg4 22.Qd5
18:06	2/14	0.18	220716845	16.Raf1 Bxf4 17.Nd5 Nce5 18.Ndxf4
					Rg7 19.Bxe5 dxe5 20.Nd5 f5 21.exf5
					Qd6 22.Nh8 Qd8 23.Nxf7 Rxf7

After forcing those three moves (up to 17.Nd5), I get this:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	-2.24	7920		17...Be5 18.Bxe5 Rxg6 19.Qxg6 Nxe5
					20.Nxf6+ Ke7
0:00	1/5	-0.73	20171		17...Be5 18.Nxe5 Nxe5 19.Nxf6+
					Kf8 20.Nh7+ Ke8 21.Nf6+ Ke7 22.Nd5+
					Kd7 23.Rxf7+ Nxf7 24.Qxf7+ Kc6
0:00	1/5	-1.19	26650		17...Nce5 18.Ngxf4 Rh8 19.Qe2 Bg4
					20.Qe3
0:00	1/6	-1.40	62768		17...Nce5 18.Ngxf4 Rh8 19.Qe2 Bg4
					20.Qe3 Ng5
0:01	1/7	-1.17	175143		17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Rg7 19.Bxe5
					fxe5 20.Nd5 Qg5
0:02	1/8	-1.27	453209		17...Nce5 18.Ngxf4 Rh8 19.Qe2 Bg4
					20.Qe3 Kf8 21.d4
0:05	1/9	-0.14	1024854		17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Rg7 19.Bxe5
					dxe5 20.Nd5 f5 21.exf5 Qd6
0:14	1/10	-0.26	2790670		17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Nxg6 19.Nxg6
					Be6 20.Bxf6 Qa5 21.Ne7 Bg4 22.Qd5
0:34	1/11	0.01	7033690		17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Rg7 19.Bxe5
					dxe5 20.Nd5 f5 21.exf5 Qd6 22.Nh8
					Qd8 23.Nxf7 Rxf7
1:27	1/12	0.10	18498942	17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Nxg6 19.Nxg6
					Be6 20.Bxf6 Qd7 21.d3 a5 22.Nf4
					Bg4 23.Qh4 Qc7
3:57	1/13	0.37	48963840	17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Rxg6 19.Nxg6
					Be6 20.Nf4 Qe7 21.Qh4 b5 22.Nxe6
					Qxe6 23.Rxf6 Qe7 24.Bxe5 Qxe5
11:12	2/14	0.41	143528614	17...Nce5 18.Ndxf4 Rxg6 19.Nxg6
					Be6 20.Nf4 Qe7 21.Qh4 b5 22.Nxe6
					Qxe6 23.Rxf6 Qe7 24.Bxe5 dxe5

Looks like White has a very scary attack going, so I don't think 15...d6 really
is a refutation.

jm



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