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Subject: Re: A study when Fruit2.2 performs better at depth 18 than Fruit2.2 Uri

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 00:24:35 10/24/05

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On October 23, 2005 at 09:08:12, Uri Blass wrote:

>[D]4qr2/4p2k/1p2P1pP/5P2/1P3P2/6Q1/8/3B1K2 w - - 0 1
>
>The solution of this study is Ba4 b5 fxg6+
>
>Fruit2.2 default can see high score at depth 18 with the right solution
>Fruit2.2 Uri cannot see it even at depth 19(it can see Ba4 b5 Bc2 as the main
>line)
>
>At 120/40 Fruit2.2 default can play the right moves
>Fruit2.2 Uri cannot find 2.fxg6+ when it gets depth 18 in a game when it already
>got depth 18 for 1.Ba4
>
>Fruit2.2 Uri has no problem to find high score for 2.fxg6 with clear hash at
>depth 15
>It seems that without clear hash 2.fxg6 is not in the pv so it is pruned by
>Fruit2.2 Uri when with clear hash it has not the same problem.
>
>I thought that history pruning=70 means less accuracy at the same depth relative
>to history pruning=50 but I am even not sure about it after analyzing this
>study.
>
>Uri

Hi Uri,

Fruit2.1+b1 gives

FEN: 4qr2/4p2k/1p2P1pP/5P2/1P3P2/6Q1/8/3B1K2 w - - 0 1

Fruit_21+_b1+HDP50:

  8/29	00:01	     383.448	0	+4,01	f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Bd1c2 Rf8xf4+ Kf1g1 Rf4f6 Qg3g5
Rf6xe6 Qg5g2 Kh7xh6 Bc2xg6 Re6xg6
  9/29	00:01	     561.629	0	+1,52	f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Bd1c2 Rf8xf4+ Qg3xf4 Qg6xc2
Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2c4+ Kf1f2 Qc4f4+ Kf2e2 Qf4e4+ Ke2d2 Qe4d4+ Kd2c2 Kh6g6
Qe7f7+ Kg6g5
  9/29	00:01	     835.656	0	+3,89	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+ Kf1g1
Rf4f6 Qg3g2 Rf6xe6 Kg1h2 Kh7xh6 Bc2xg6 Re6xg6
 10/30	00:01	     921.208	0	+4,80	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+ Kf1g1
Rf4f6 Qg3g5 Rf6xe6 Bc2f5 Re6e1+ Kg1f2 Re1f1+ Kf2xf1
 11/31	00:02	   1.228.680	0	+1,49	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+ Qg3xf4
Qg6xc2 Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2c4+ Kf1f2 Qc4f4+ Kf2e2 Qf4e4+ Ke2d2 Qe4d4+ Kd2c2
Kh6g6 Qe7f7+ Kg6g5
 12/33	00:03	   2.334.359	0	+1,49	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+ Qg3xf4
Qg6xc2 Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2c4+ Kf1f2 Qc4f4+ Kf2e2 Qf4e4+ Ke2d2 Qe4d4+ Kd2c2
Kh6g6 Qe7f7+ Kg6g5
 13/34	00:06	   3.815.095	674.000	+1,42	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Qg3xf4 Qg6xc2 Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2c4+ Kf1f2 Qc4f4+ Kf2e2 Qf4e4+ Ke2d2 Qe4d4+
Kd2c2 Qd4c4+ Kc2b2 Qc4d4+ Kb2b3 Qd4d3+ Kb3a2
 14/37	00:12	   8.147.266	694.545	+1,41	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Qg3xf4 Qg6xc2 Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2c4+ Kf1f2 Qc4f4+ Kf2e2 Qf4e4+ Ke2d2 Qe4d4+
Kd2c2 Qd4c4+ Kc2b2 Qc4e2+ Kb2c1 Qe2c4+ Kc1d1 Qc4d4+ Kd1e1
 15/39	00:25	  17.419.671	699.583	+1,35	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Qg3xf4 Qg6xc2 Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2c4+ Kf1f2 Qc4f4+ Kf2e2 Qf4e4+ Ke2d2 Qe4d4+
Kd2c2 Qd4c4+ Kc2b2 Qc4e2+ Kb2c1 Qe2c4+ Kc1d1 Qc4d4+ Kd1e1 Kh6g6 Qe7f7+ Kg6g5
 16/43	00:58	  39.290.656	673.720	+1,25	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Qg3xf4 Qg6xc2 Qf4f7+ Kh7xh6 Qf7xe7 Qc2f5+ Kf1e2 Kh6g6 Qe7e8+ Kg6h6 Qe8c6 Kh6g5
e6e7 Qf5e5+ Ke2d3 Qe5xe7 Qc6xb5+ Kg5f4 Qb5c4+ Kf4e5 Qc4e4+ Ke5f6 Qe4xe7+ Kf6xe7
 17/61	11:59	 466.916.279	649.541	+4,48	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Kf1g1 Rf4f6 Qg3g5 Rf6xe6 Kg1f1 Re6f6+ Kf1e1 Rf6e6+ Ke1d1 Re6d6+ Kd1c1 Rd6c6
Qg5c5 Rc6xc5 b4xc5 Kh7xh6 Bc2xg6 Kh6xg6 c5c6
 18/61	13:29	 525.772.508	649.505	+4,11	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Kf1g1 Rf4f6 Qg3g5 Rf6xe6 Kg1f1 Re6f6+ Kf1e1 Rf6e6+ Ke1d1 Re6d6+ Kd1c1 Rd6c6
Qg5c5 Rc6xc5 b4xc5 Kh7xh6 Bc2xg6 Kh6xg6 c5c6 Kg6f5
 19/61	16:34	 648.054.055	652.195	+4,48	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Kf1g1 Rf4f6 Qg3g5 Rf6xe6 Kg1f1 Re6f6+ Kf1e1 Rf6e6+ Ke1d1 Re6d6+ Kd1c1 Rd6c6
Qg5c5 Rc6xc5 b4xc5 Kh7xh6 Bc2xg6 Kh6g7 c5c6 Kg7xg6
 20/62	25:39	1.023.520.961	665.127	+5,23	Bd1a4 b6b5 f5xg6+ Qe8xg6 Ba4c2 Rf8xf4+
Kf1g1 Rf4f6 Qg3g5 Rf6xe6 Kg1f1 Re6f6+ Kf1e1 Rf6e6+ Ke1d1 Re6d6+ Kd1c1 Rd6c6
Qg5c5 Kh7xh6 Bc2xg6 Rc6xg6 Qc5xb5 Kh6g7 Qb5c5 Kg7f7 b4b5


This looks pretty good.
Kind regards
Bernhard



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