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Subject: Re: Verified Forward Pruning

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 14:47:22 10/24/05

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On October 24, 2005 at 15:41:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 24, 2005 at 13:38:02, Premraj Natarajan wrote:
>
>>I just came across a article that tells about verified Forward pruning instead
>>of normal forward pruning. I am not sure if today's chess engines have
>>implemented i hope developers would look into this and implement if it really
>>helps.
>>
>>http://www.cs.biu.ac.il/~davoudo/pubs/vrfd_null.html
>>
>>bye
>>Premraj
>
>
>This is old.  Several tried it.  I don't know if anyone uses it, as it really is
>an efficiency issue that slows null-move search down due to the verification
>search overhead...

I have a kind of conditional, reduced confirmation search for nullmove fail
highs since years. Similar seems Vincent's double nullmove idea.
Yes, it is overhead - how many elo points do you gain from an let say 5%
speedup. How many points do you gain to detect a decisive zugzwang here and
there inside the search interior node or root, but your opponent not?

No idea ;-)

CTT4-11 Crafty-IsiChess
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