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Subject: Re: HIARCS 10 strength ?

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 08:49:40 10/26/05

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On October 26, 2005 at 10:18:42, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On October 26, 2005 at 08:12:43, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On October 26, 2005 at 04:12:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 26, 2005 at 03:19:57, Mark Mason wrote:
>>>
>>>>There is a thead lower down about how much stronger he new HIARCS wil be than
>>>>the curent leaders, but didn't HIARCS 10 come 3rd behind Fruit 2.2 and Junior 9
>>>>in the recent CCT'05 rapid tournament (see results below) or have I
>>>>misunderstood something ?
>>>>
>>>>http://www.homer-chess.com/news.php?readmore=33
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>No
>>>
>>>I believe that Junior9 did not play in the tournament.
>>>The version that played was probably later version of Junior when I do not know
>>>the hardware of it.
>>>
>>>I also doubt if Hiarcs10 played in that tournament.
>>>
>>>I can add that it seems to me that hiarcs used a poor opening book in that
>>>tournament.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I always like to believe that a strong program can outplay an opponent even with
>>a bad opening (book). But there again, I suppose that a bad opening is already
>>3-4 weak moves to begin with, which makes the program not what it really is.
>>Still, I'd like to believe that NO opening book WOULD make the program what it
>>is meant to be (with the program making its own opening "by ear").
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>
>With strong programs such as the top programs of today, a bad book spells an
>almost certain defeat.  It used to be different with programs of yesteryear, of
>course.

But maybe no book is better than a bad book, because the computer program
itself, is stronger than a badly analysed opening line.

Also, if the opponent program is about 100 elo (in some casses it might require
200+ elo!) or more, below the stronger program with its bad book, maybe too, it
will recover and go on to win.

S.Taylor



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