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Subject: Kurt! re.Junior 9, does even better etc.

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 13:44:25 10/27/05

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On October 26, 2005 at 08:25:53, stuart taylor wrote:

>On October 23, 2005 at 15:53:36, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On October 23, 2005 at 15:43:21, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On October 23, 2005 at 12:07:50, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 23, 2005 at 11:23:00, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In matches between the two engines, Junior 9 did atleast as good as Fruit 2.2
>>>>>against Shredder 9.
>>>>>I always believe we need to compare relative things, in order to see a better
>>>>>picture of different programs' strengths and weaknesses. Fruit is slightly
>>>>>better vs other programs too, which junior is slightly less with.
>>>>>S.Taylor
>>>>
>>>>      Where does Junior9 better than Fruti 2.2
>>>>      - results
>>>>      - time control
>>>>      Thanks for more details ...
>>>>      Regards
>>>>      Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]
>>>
>>>I have not the time to search it out now, nor the details in front of me. So I
>>>do not insist on it if you say I'm wrong. I also appologise if I was wrong.
>>>But, from memmory, I was sure that Junior 9 often came out slightly above
>>>Shredder 9 in several "matches", between those two engines (playing EACH OTHER)
>>>alone/explicitly. Not in general.
>>>I was always looking at the longer time controls, not blitz.
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>
>>      Hi Stuart
>>      You are surely not wrong in so far as Junior 9 is a
>>      tough opponent for Shredder 9 at longer time control.
>>      See also [http://www.utzingerk.com/shredder9_test.htm]
>>      But Shredder 9 has almost ever the better results than
>>      Junior 9 vs other engines.
>>      Regards
>>      Kurt
>
>Obviously!
>I wanted to bring attention to whatever it is that made Junior very tough for
>Shredder, which must have been a strength in Junior which was exploiting a
>(minor) weakness in Shredder.
>And did Fruit do something towards this end?
>And will Shredder 10 repair this "weakness" (as I have asked about before).
>Regards
>S.Taylor

So after I justified myself, after you humbling me with your slight outburst
(And I HAVE often mentioned this matter before and got little reaction from
anyone), can you not atleast acknowledge the idea, or say something about what
_I_ wanted to discuss?
Regards,
S.Taylor



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