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Subject: Re: Question about Axon Benchmark

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 04:58:06 10/28/05

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On October 28, 2005 at 05:42:05, vladan wrote:

>On October 27, 2005 at 12:24:36, Ernest Bonnem wrote:
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>Dear Mr. Bonnem,
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>It is very hard to find universal benchmark from all past, present and
>future machines.
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>Also, the speed and chess engine strength depends also on software (not
>only hardware, clock etc.). Some compilers use some machine speed up
>details, some don't. The same C chess engine, compiled with same compiler
>under different parameters produces different speed and strength.
>
>I belive that Axon Benchmark gives solid and optimal hardware performance
>ratings. Some other tests and benchmarks prove it also.


Why not compile it in 64 bits ?
That should give a more realistic vision of the current processors speed.


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>Regards,
>
>Vladan
>
>ps. Thanks Djordje for some good explanations abou Axon Benchmark.
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>>For some reason, your Axon Benchmark only gives a 10-12% advantage to Athlon 64
>>compared to Athlon XP (given the same frequency).
>>From the tests I have seen in the CCC Forum, with different chess programs, the
>>advantage is more like 20% (see also the FritzMark, in kNodes/sec).
>>Perhaps your Axon v1.0 chess engine is not representative of today's main chess
>>programs...
>>
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>>On October 27, 2005 at 06:04:29, vladan wrote:
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>>>
>>>Dear mr. Nielsen,
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you for using Axon Benchmark.
>>>
>>>Mr. Sedat was very kind to collect and present the most completed Axon Benchmark
>>>list on his site.
>>>
>>>For benchmarking, the program uses my embedded Axon v1.0 chess engine, and
>>>analyzes one special middlegame position. The engine is totally written in
>>>assembly language, it is the mixture of 16 and 32 bit machine instructions. It
>>>does not use MMX extensions, 64 instructions or other special processor features
>>>(instruction sets, logic processors etc.).
>>>
>>>Only one standard processor in system (single CPU, primary and secondary hash)
>>>is the test object.
>>>
>>>These facts determine its compatibility. It is very useful to test and compare
>>>chess engines running only on single processors which have similar software
>>>structure. Also it measures very precisely processor architecture advances
>>>connected with chess engines. As you noticed FX 2600 MHz machine has 50% better
>>>chess performances using only about 33% higher clock frequency. Better
>>>architecture. And that’s it.
>>>
>>>If you intend to use multiprocessor engines (like Fritz or Shredder) on
>>>multicore or multithreading processors you must use their own benchmarks.
>>>
>>>The method of using start position for benchmarking is a little obsolete. If you
>>>do it in that way, it is much better to download some standard EPD tests. Almost
>>>all modern interfaces (Shredder Classic, Arena, ChessBase …) have the option to
>>>analyze EPDs with different engines.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>Vladan Vuckovic,
>>>
>>>the author of Axon Benchmark.



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