Author: blass uri
Date: 03:49:34 03/16/99
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On March 16, 1999 at 01:50:31, Harald Faber wrote: >On March 15, 1999 at 10:07:15, Robert Ericsson wrote: > >>On March 15, 1999 at 09:05:07, Harald Faber wrote: >>>You can't prove, impossible, because not all moves are Fritz' moves. And besides >>>there are multi-variation-mode etc. >>> >>>EVIDENCE enough, not only for me, is that a patzer like Allwermann, although he >>>has DWZ 1926 (~ELO2100) which is ~130 higher than mine, performs ELO2630 in 9 >>>games! >>>This is impossible without cheating. >> >>Of course it's obvoius that he has cheated somehow. I only wonder in which >>way (or with which program...). So he hasn't been caught in action with >>wires and all :-) >> >>Nearly 'Fritz5.32-proven' you write. Have anyone tested for any other >>chess program? Is the market shares for Fritz5.32 _very_ big in Germany >>compared to other chess programs/countries? I mean, why have one suspected >>use of Fritz5.32 and not any other chess program? Maybe this has all been >>discussed in Germany before I read it here on CCC in the first place!? >>/Robert > >I don't know if the first try was with Fritz and so no other prog was used to >verify. But indeed there are several moves only a program with little positional >ability would play. Like Fritz. :-) can you show examples? I do not think that Fritz has little positional ability. I think that the only problem of Fritz is that Fritz is a root proccesor so sometimes it does a mistake because it cannot see the final position clearly. I saw cases when Fritz won Hiarcs7 because of poor endgame of Hiarcs7 Fritz5.32 won one game in the ssdf games against Hiarcs7 by impressive positional sacrifices: 1r4k1/1b1r1ppp/p1p1pn1b/2PpP3/1P1P4/2BB2PP/P1N5/4RRK1 b - - 0 1 Fritz5.32 played 24...Ne4 and sacrificed a pawn and after the moves 25.Bxe4 dxe4 26.Rxe4 Bg5 27.Na3 fritz5.32 sacrificed a second pawn by 27...a5 to get the bishop at b7 to the game. The position is probably drawn but Fritz5.32 won the game because it has better positional understanding(at least in this position) relative to Hiarcs7 Uri
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