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Subject: Re: Fruit has been dethroned!

Author: Chessfun

Date: 12:51:59 10/29/05

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On October 29, 2005 at 13:37:22, Heinz van Kempen wrote:

>On October 29, 2005 at 13:24:57, Greg Simpson wrote:
>
>>According to the CEGT rating list Fruit 2.2 is now number two!
>>
>>I'm kidding, whatever engine is number one probably has too few games for it to
>>mean anything.  I really just want to point out that letting the ranking numbers
>>reflect the position of the the unseen engines is going to lead to senseless
>>speculation like this.  If there is an easy way to make the rankings be among
>>only the engines visible in the all versions list I think that would be better.
>
>Hi Greg :-),
>
>okay, I can tell that number one is currently Deep Shredder 9 2 CPU 512MB, so
>some hardware advantage over Fruit 2.2 with 1 CPU and 256 MB. Moreover this are
>only a few ELO points and it is based on only 150 games.
>
>You know that we "hide" engines with less than 300 games from now onwards
>because of the nasty discussions and speculations that arose here.

Hi Heinz,

If you are concerned about speculation on items like this, (who is the no 1
hidden engine due to game limitation of 300 games) you could simply produce the
rating list via ELO Stat and limit the minimum number games to 300. That way the
result would generate a list without missing numbers and none would be wiser
till you reached the 300 game mark and posted a new list.

>We are also aware that this is a pity for the authors of engines who want to
>know beforehand where their new version stays currently and so I offered to give
>them a "secret" link to an all games / all versions rating list on request.

Then you could run ELO Stat again with minimum number of games set to zero to
prodce this list.

Sarah.



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