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Subject: Re: Allwermann shows, that Fritz is GM strength !?

Author: blass uri

Date: 08:52:06 03/16/99

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On March 16, 1999 at 10:39:16, Harald Faber wrote:

>On March 16, 1999 at 06:49:34, blass uri wrote:
>
>>>>Of course it's obvoius that he has cheated somehow. I only wonder in which
>>>>way (or with which program...). So he hasn't been caught in action with
>>>>wires and all :-)
>>>>
>>>>Nearly 'Fritz5.32-proven' you write. Have anyone tested for any other
>>>>chess program? Is the market shares for Fritz5.32 _very_ big in Germany
>>>>compared to other chess programs/countries? I mean, why have one suspected
>>>>use of Fritz5.32 and not any other chess program? Maybe this has all been
>>>>discussed in Germany before I read it here on CCC in the first place!?
>>>>/Robert
>>>
>>>I don't know if the first try was with Fritz and so no other prog was used to
>>>verify. But indeed there are several moves only a program with little positional
>>>ability would play. Like Fritz. :-)
>>
>>can you show examples?
>
>Just take out one of Allwermanns games.
>
>>I do not think that Fritz has little positional ability.
>
>Sometimes 2 people have to agree that they disagree in one or few points. :-)
>
>>I saw cases when Fritz won Hiarcs7 because of poor endgame of Hiarcs7
>>
>>Fritz5.32 won one game in the ssdf games against Hiarcs7 by impressive
>>positional sacrifices:
>
>ONE game.
>
>>Fritz5.32 played 24...Ne4 and sacrificed a pawn and after the moves 25.Bxe4 dxe4
>>26.Rxe4 Bg5 27.Na3 fritz5.32 sacrificed a second pawn by 27...a5 to get the
>>bishop at b7 to the game.
>>
>>The position is probably drawn but Fritz5.32 won the game because it has better
>>positional understanding(at least in this position) relative to Hiarcs7
>>Uri
>
>In this position, yes, Fritz managed to use the pieces dynamically.
>Don't conclude from this that Fritz HAS better positional understanding than
>Hiarcs.
>I can also show you ONE example where WChess won against Shredder in an endgame
>with a pawn down.

This is not only one case when I saw that Fritz5.32 has better positional
understanding then Hiarcs7.

Here is another example from game 15 of the ssdf games fritz532-Hiarcs7:
3r4/p5pp/1p2kbp1/2p5/P1P2P2/1P3K2/3R1P1P/2B5 b - - 0 1
After Rxd2 Bxd2 Kf5 black cannot lose but
Hiarcs7 with black lost the game:
32....Rf8 33.Rd5 Bd4 34.Be3 Bc3 35.Ke4 Rf6 36.Rd3 Bb2 37.Rd2 Ba3 38.Rd5 Rf8
39.Re5+ Kf6 40.Rd5 Ke6 41.Re5+ Kd6 42.f5 gxf5 43.Rxf5 Re8+ 44.Kd3 Re7 45.Bf4 Kc6
46.Be5 Bb4 47.f4 Be1 48.Ke4 Bf2 49.Rf8 Bd4 50.Rc8+ Kb7 51.Rd8 Bf2 52.Kd5 Bh4
53.Bd6 Rf7 54.Rh8 g6 55.a5 Ka6 56.axb6 axb6 57.Rb8 Rb7 58.Rf8 Ra7 59.Kc6 Ka5
60.Rb8 Kb4 61.Rxb6+
Kc3 62.Bxc5 and white won.

Uri



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