Author: Uri Blass
Date: 17:08:27 10/30/05
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On October 30, 2005 at 16:26:42, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >On October 30, 2005 at 07:26:17, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>Tactics is not the strength of Fruit ! >> >>See here only: >>After move 19: >> >>[D]2r1qr1k/1b1nbppp/p2p4/4pPP1/P1p1P3/2N1BN2/1PP3QP/2KR2R1 w - - 0 1 >> >>Fruit 2.2.1 say here only 0.94, Fritz 9 say +3 ! And after move 25 - game was >>over! > >This has nothing whatosever to do with tactics. Pure kingsafety issue. > >-- >GCP I disagree. high score can be also result of seeing deeper and not only result of king safety. Fruit's score before Qh3 was 0.94 and after the move it is 2.09 based on the game. If I give fruit enough time to analyze it can see that Qh3 wins a pawn based on the main line(Qh3 g6 f6 Bd8 Rxd6) Sir JMA,F - KingofJungle,F, Final Monthly chessbase tournament 20+0 rapid 2005 2r1qr1k/1b1nbppp/p2p4/4pPP1/P1p1P3/2N1BN2/1PP3QP/2KR2R1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1: 20.Kb1 = (0.07) Depth: 1/1 00:00:00 20.Kb1 Nc5 21.Bxc5 Rxc5 = (0.15) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00 20.Nd5 Nc5 21.Bxc5 Rxc5 = (0.19) Depth: 2/6 00:00:00 20.Nd5 Nc5 21.Bxc5 Rxc5 = (0.19) Depth: 3/8 00:00:00 20.Nd5 Nc5 21.Bxc5 Rxc5 22.Nxe7 Qxe7 = (0.10) Depth: 4/15 00:00:00 20.Kb1 Rb8 21.Nd5 Bxd5 22.Rxd5 ² (0.30) Depth: 4/15 00:00:00 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Rxd6 ² (0.58) Depth: 4/15 00:00:00 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Rxd6 Rd8 ± (0.72) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Rxd6 Rc6 23.Qd2 ² (0.60) Depth: 6/15 00:00:00 9kN 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Rxd6 Qe7 23.Bh6 Rg8 ± (0.78) Depth: 7/20 00:00:00 19kN 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Rxd6 Qe7 23.Qd2 Rfd8 24.Kb1 ² (0.62) Depth: 8/20 00:00:00 39kN 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Rxd6 Qe7 23.Qd2 Nc5 24.Bxc5 Rxc5 25.Kb1 ² (0.60) Depth: 9/21 00:00:01 90kN 20.f6 gxf6 21.gxf6 Bxf6 22.Bh6 Rg8 23.Qxg8+ Qxg8 24.Rxg8+ Kxg8 25.Rxd6 Bc6 26.Nd5 Bd8 27.Be3 ² (0.62) Depth: 10/30 00:00:01 276kN 20.Kb1 Rg8 21.Qh3 Rf8 22.g6 fxg6 23.fxg6 h6 24.Bxh6 Rxf3 25.Qxf3 gxh6 ± (0.75) Depth: 10/30 00:00:01 688kN 20.Kb1 Rg8 21.Qh3 Nf8 22.Rg4 Rd8 23.Bb6 Rc8 24.f6 gxf6 25.gxf6 Rxg4 26.Qxg4 ± (0.75) Depth: 11/30 00:00:02 1644kN 20.Kb1 Nc5 21.f6 gxf6 22.gxf6 Bxf6 23.Rxd6 Qe7 24.Bxc5 Rxc5 25.Rdd1 Qe6 26.Qf2 Qb6 ± (0.73) Depth: 12/37 00:00:04 2958kN 20.Qh3 g6 21.f6 Bd8 22.Rxd6 Nc5 23.Rd5 Nxa4 24.Rxe5 Qc6 25.Qh6 Rg8 +- (1.62) Depth: 12/41 00:00:25 15867kN 20.Qh3 Qd8 21.g6 fxg6 22.fxg6 Nf6 23.Nxe5 Qe8 24.Nf7+ Rxf7 25.Bd4 h6 26.gxf7 Qxf7 27.Qf5 Rf8 28.Kb1 +- (1.93) Depth: 13/41 00:00:38 24027kN 20.Qh3 Bc6 21.Rg4 g6 22.Qh6 f6 23.Nh4 Rg8 24.Nxg6+ Rxg6 25.fxg6 Qxg6 26.gxf6 Qxg4 27.fxe7 Bxe4 28.Rxd6 Bg6 29.Rxa6 +- (2.14) Depth: 14/44 00:01:07 43009kN 20.Qh3 Rc7 21.Rg4 g6 22.Qh6 Rg8 23.f6 Nxf6 24.gxf6 Bxf6 25.Rxd6 Qe7 26.Rd2 Rd7 27.Nd5 Bxd5 28.Rxd5 Rb8 +- (2.40) Depth: 15/51 00:02:26 92099kN 20.Qh3 Rc7 21.Rg4 g6 22.Qh6 Rg8 23.f6 Nxf6 24.gxf6 Bxf6 25.Rxd6 Qe7 26.Rd2 Rd7 27.Ng5 Rg7 28.Kb1 Rxd2 29.Bxd2 +- (2.38) Depth: 16/51 00:03:04 117633kN 20.Qh3 g6 21.f6 Bd8 22.Rxd6 Bc6 23.Rgd1 Bb6 24.Bxb6 Nxb6 25.a5 Na4 26.Nxa4 Bxa4 27.Qh6 Rg8 28.Rxa6 c3 29.b3 +- (2.10) Depth: 17/70 00:16:52 668915kN 20.Qh3 g6 21.f6 Bd8 22.Rxd6 Bc6 23.Rgd1 Bb6 24.Bxb6 Nxb6 25.a5 Na4 26.Nxa4 Bxa4 27.Qh6 Rg8 28.Rxa6 c3 29.b4 Bb5 +- (2.25) Depth: 18/70 00:19:27 769359kN (, 31.10.2005) After 20.Qh3 g6 21.f6 fruit can see at depth 15 that it has bigger problems at depth 15 so it is clear that fruit missed some tactics in the calculation. Sir JMA,F - KingofJungle,F, Final Monthly chessbase tournament 20+0 rapid 2005 2r1qr1k/1b1nbp1p/p2p1Pp1/4p1P1/P1p1P3/2N1BN1Q/1PP4P/2KR2R1 b - - 0 1 Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1: 1. +- (2.84): 21...Bd8 22.Rg4 Kg8 23.Rh4 Qe6 24.Qxe6 fxe6 25.Rxd6 Rc7 26.Rh6 Bc8 27.Kb1 Bb7 28.Rxe6 Rc6 29.Rxc6 Bxc6 2. +- (2.96): 21...Rc7 22.fxe7 Qxe7 23.Rgf1 Nc5 24.Qh4 Rb8 25.Rd2 Rcc8 26.Rfd1 Bc6 27.Bxc5 dxc5 28.Rd6 Kg8 29.Rf6 Kh8 30.Nd5 (, 31.10.2005) I suspect that it is possible to prove that Qh3 wins a piece if you search deep enough. Uri
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