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Subject: Re: GM Class Chess Programs

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 07:27:53 10/31/05

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On October 31, 2005 at 09:47:36, Russell wrote:

>On October 31, 2005 at 08:12:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 2005 at 08:03:31, Richard Heldmann wrote:
>>
>>>Hypothetically speaking(don't wish to offend), are programs like Fruit, Shredder
>>>and Fritz running on a standard PC(3 Ghz), IM, GM or SGM class?
>>>
>>>Is the list of chess programs much larger than the three I mention?
>>
>>The list of chess programs is clearly larger than the three that you mention
>>
>>Humans are simply weak at chess and based on results even old ChessTiger14 got
>>good super GM results on slower hardware than 3 ghz.
>>
>>Uri
>Humans are weak at chess?

Uri sometimes makes very truthful comments in a very innocent sounding way!

And, yes! it seems obvious enough to me!.

Well over 10 years ago, when I was struggling with my dedicated chess computers,
or some earlier PC programs, I at first was constantly taken aback in shock, at
how I got outsmarted just because I missed something which should have been
obvious, and lost. I also saw how often I got tricked. But eventually I could
beat computers often, if I had the right kind of care and concentration and
stamina.
That was before Genius 3 came out. Genius 3 was the first time I could hardly do
it anymore (Genius 2 was a bit easier for me). And even whenever I DID do it
(prior to that), I realized I was only a bit lucky, and/or that I got a bit of a
knack how to limit the tactics, which made it easier for me.
I still couldn't imagine how GM's would manage, but they were still holding
heads high, until Fritz 3 at Blitz and Genius 3 at 30 min per game managed to
outsmart Kasparov, on the earliest pentiums of 90 Mhz.
But GM's ere still learning how to adapt.
But I was sure I could understand the human problems, even for GM's.
Now? Gm's still "know" what to do, but cannot usually do it, over the board
anymore.
This is exactly what _I_ was suffering (at MY level) several years earlier, but
no one was admitting that machines could ever do anything. But _I_ was right!
All what was needed was to add a few megahertz, and more chess knowledge and
computer techniques, and the greatest world champions of all time are in the
same boat!
S.Taylor



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