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Subject: Re: GM Class Chess Programs

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 07:33:44 10/31/05

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On October 31, 2005 at 10:01:40, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 31, 2005 at 09:47:36, Russell wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 2005 at 08:12:14, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 31, 2005 at 08:03:31, Richard Heldmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hypothetically speaking(don't wish to offend), are programs like Fruit, Shredder
>>>>and Fritz running on a standard PC(3 Ghz), IM, GM or SGM class?
>>>>
>>>>Is the list of chess programs much larger than the three I mention?
>>>
>>>The list of chess programs is clearly larger than the three that you mention
>>>
>>>Humans are simply weak at chess and based on results even old ChessTiger14 got
>>>good super GM results on slower hardware than 3 ghz.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>Humans are weak at chess?
>
>All the results that I see prove that humans are weak relative to
>computers(otherwise they could easily not let programs like tiger14 to get super
>GM result and will not let other programs to win tournaments easily).
>
>The last human who proved that he is able to beat machines was GM smirin who
>beated programs 5-3 some years ago and even in that case I am sure that better
>hardware could help the result to be 4-4 because tiger did a mistake and lost
>because of not searching deep enough.
>
>Other humans who played recently matches against strong programs lost and in the
>last uear hydra or Zappa had no problem to beat their human opponents.
>
>
>Uri


Interesting, but when did Zappa play a strong GM? Did I missed a good match
recently?

PS: Some programs that performs good against other programs are NOT the
strongest program against humans.

Jorge



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