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Subject: Re: Fruit 2.2.1 and 86 ply: a record or misprint !?!?

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 08:32:26 10/31/05

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On October 31, 2005 at 10:48:48, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 31, 2005 at 10:39:39, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>21: Qf1, Endtest
>>
>>[D]8/6pk/1p6/8/PP3p1p/5P2/4KP1q/3Q4 w - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:
>>
>>1.Qd3+ g6
>>  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>>1.Qd3+ Kh6 2.Qd6+ Kg5 3.Qxb6
>>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.Qc6+ Kg5 3.Qb5+ Kf6 4.Qxb6+ Ke5
>>  ²  (0.66)   Depth: 2/8   00:00:00
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.Qc6+ g6 3.Qxb6
>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 3/8   00:00:00
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.Qc6+ g6 3.Qxb6 h3
>>  ±  (0.76)   Depth: 4/11   00:00:00
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.Qc6+ g6 3.Qxb6 h3 4.a5
>>  ±  (0.92)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.Qc6+ g6 3.Qxb6 h3 4.Qd4 Kh5 5.Qd5+ g5
>>  ±  (0.89)   Depth: 6/16   00:00:00  5kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.Qxg2 hxg2
>>  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  15kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qh2 5.Qb1+ Kg8
>>  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  16kN
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg1 4.Qc6+ Kh5 5.Qe8+ Kh6 6.Qh8+ Kg6 7.Qxh4
>>  ±  (0.99)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  30kN
>>1.Qc2+ Kh6 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg1 4.Qc6+ Kh5 5.Qe6 Qc1 6.Qg4+ Kh6 7.Qxh4+ Kg6
>>8.Qg4+ Kf6
>>  ±  (1.14)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  72kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qe6+ Kf8
>>  +-  (1.94)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  72kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qc8+ Kf7 7.Qd7+ Kf6
>>  +-  (1.99)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:01  84kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qe6+ Kh7 7.Qe4+ Kg8 8.Qe8+
>>Kh7
>>  +-  (2.05)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:01  116kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qe6+ Kh7 7.Qe4+ Kh6 8.a7
>>Qb5+ 9.Qd3 Qb2+ 10.Qd2
>>  +-  (2.50)   Depth: 11/22   00:00:01  185kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qc8+ Kh7 7.Qb7 Qc5 8.a7
>>Qc2+ 9.Ke1
>>  +-  (2.42)   Depth: 12/26   00:00:01  333kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qc8+ Kh7 7.Qb7 Qc5 8.a7
>>Qc4+ 9.Kd2 Qd4+ 10.Ke1
>>  +-  (2.49)   Depth: 13/28   00:00:01  682kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qc8+ Kh7 7.b7 Qb5+ 8.Kd2 Qb4+
>>9.Kd3 Qb5+ 10.Ke4 Qb1+ 11.Kxf4 Qb4+ 12.Ke5
>>  +-  (2.51)   Depth: 14/33   00:00:02  1470kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.bxa5 Qg2 4.a6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qc8+ Kh7 7.Qb7 Qc5 8.a7
>>Qc4+ 9.Kd2 Qd4+ 10.Ke1 Qc3+ 11.Kf1 Qd3+ 12.Kg2 Qg6+ 13.Kf1
>>  +-  (2.57)   Depth: 15/33   00:00:04  3225kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qc8+ Kh7 7.b7 Qb5+ 8.Kd2 Qb4+
>>9.Kd3 Qb5+ 10.Ke4 Qb1+ 11.Ke5 Qa1+ 12.Kf5 Qb1+ 13.Kxf4 Qb4+ 14.Ke5
>>  +-  (2.51)   Depth: 16/37   00:00:09  7311kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.Qc8+ Kh7
>>9.b7 Qb5+ 10.Kg2 Qg5+ 11.Kh2 Qh6+ 12.Qh3 a4 13.b8Q Qxh3+ 14.Kxh3
>>  +-  (7.90)   Depth: 17/41   00:00:18  15268kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.b7 Kh7
>>9.Qc8 Qb5+ 10.Kg2 Qg5+ 11.Kh2 Qh6+ 12.Qh3 a4 13.b8Q Qxh3+ 14.Kxh3
>>  +-  (7.90)   Depth: 18/41   00:00:23  19134kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.Qc8+ Kh7
>>9.b7 Qb5+ 10.Kg2 Qg5+ 11.Kh2 Qh6+ 12.Qh3 a4 13.Qxh6+ Kxh6 14.b8Q g5 15.Qd6+ Kg7
>>  +-  (8.24)   Depth: 19/44   00:00:32  27305kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.b7 Kh7
>>9.Qh3+ Kg6 10.Qc8 Qb5+ 11.Kg2 a4 12.b8Q Qxb8 13.Qxb8 a3 14.Qd6+ Kf5 15.Qxa3
>>  +-  (9.22)   Depth: 20/58   00:00:57  45775kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.b7 Kh7
>>9.Qh3+ Kg6 10.Qc8 Qb5+ 11.Kg2 a4 12.b8Q Qxb8 13.Qxb8 a3 14.Qd6+ Kf5 15.Qc5+ Ke6
>>16.Qxa3
>>  +-  (9.24)   Depth: 21/58   00:01:13  56892kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.b7 Kh7
>>9.Kg2 Qg5+ 10.Qg4 Qb5 11.Qh3+ Kg6 12.Qc8 a4 13.b8Q Qxb8 14.Qxb8 a3 15.Qd6+ Kf5
>>16.Qxa3
>>  +-  (9.22)   Depth: 22/58   00:01:21  62451kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh8 8.b7 Kh7
>>9.Kg2 Qg5+ 10.Qg4 Qb5 11.Qh3+ Kg6 12.Qc8 a4 13.b8Q Qxb8 14.Qxb8 a3 15.Qd6+ Kf5
>>16.Qc5+ Ke6
>>  +-  (9.24)   Depth: 23/68   00:02:14  98917kN
>>1.Qf1 h3 2.a5 bxa5 3.b5 Qg2 4.b6 Qg5 5.Qxh3+ Kg8 6.Qd7 Qe5+ 7.Kf1 Kh7 8.b7 a4
>>9.Qxa4 g6 10.Qd7+ Kh6 11.Qc8 Qb5+ 12.Kg2 Qg5+ 13.Kh2 Qe5 14.b8Q Qxb8 15.Qxb8 g5
>>16.Qd6+ Kg7
>>  +-  (9.68)   Depth: 24/86   00:16:35  680670kN, tb=17
>>
>>Jouni
>>
>>PS. Of course Fruit is new reference now
>
>It is certainly not a record.
>I remember 120 ply search from fruit but unfortunately I do not remember where I
>saved the analysis.
>
>The problem is that fruit has no partial extensions and it extends too much.
>
>A full ply both for check extension and for single reply extension seem to be
>too much.
>
>Uri

Excuse me uri, i don't wish to sound disrespectful, but your crique of fruit "it
extends too much" doesnt play to well, with me at least. Fruit is more or less
acknowledged as a top if not the top engine at the moment. Who are you to make
this evaluation. Until Movie gets to that rung of the ladder you are best served
to hold back and observe.
Wayne




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