Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 12:17:43 11/01/05
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On November 01, 2005 at 13:12:02, Joachim Rang wrote:
>On November 01, 2005 at 12:56:25, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2005 at 12:26:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2005 at 11:12:45, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>Weak King Safety by Toga II 1.0 - Trojans are possible!
>>>>
>>>>First game was that:
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Blitz:5'"]
>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>[Date "2005.11.01"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "Nemeth, E."]
>>>>[Black "Toga II 1.0"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "A00"]
>>>>[Annotator "Nemeth,E"]
>>>>[PlyCount "31"]
>>>>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>>>>
>>>>{64MB, general.ctg, P3 600 MHz} 1. d3 {0} d5 {0} 2. h4 {1} Nc6 {-0.21/11 11} 3.
>>>>g3 {1} Nf6 {-0.54/10 7} 4. Bh3 {1} Bxh3 {-0.89/11 11} 5. Nxh3 {1} e5 {
>>>>-0.84/12 9} 6. a3 {3} h6 {-1.08/11 22} 7. Nc3 {7} Be7 {-1.18/11 17} 8. Kf1 {9}
>>>>O-O {-1.44/11 11} 9. e4 {2} dxe4 {-2.03/11 8} 10. Bg5 {2} hxg5 {-3.32/11 8} 11.
>>>>hxg5 {2} Nd7 {-3.31/10 6} 12. Qh5 {2} f5 {0.37/10 8} 13. g6 {1} Nf6 {7.37/10 6}
>>>>14. Qh4 {2} Qd4 {7.15/10 5} 15. Ng5 {3} Qxf2+ {6.96/10 4} 16. Kxf2 {1} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>That was very fast.
>>>>
>>>>Also I set the Timecontrol on 10 Minutes on my PC. Here the game:
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Blitz:10'"]
>>>>[Site "?"]
>>>>[Date "2005.11.01"]
>>>>[Round "?"]
>>>>[White "Nemeth, E."]
>>>>[Black "Toga II 1.0"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ECO "A20"]
>>>>[Annotator "Nemeth,E"]
>>>>[PlyCount "39"]
>>>>[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
>>>>
>>>>{64MB, general.ctg, P3 600 MHz} 1. c4 {0} e5 {0} 2. e4 {2} Nc6 {0} 3. Nc3 {3}
>>>>Nf6 {0} 4. d3 {6} Bc5 {-0.37/11 13} 5. h4 {8} O-O {-0.48/11 25} 6. Bg5 {3} h6 {
>>>>-0.93/11 15} 7. Nh3 {7} d6 {-1.57/11 22} 8. f4 {2} hxg5 {-4.25/11 15} 9. hxg5 {
>>>>2} Bg4 {-2.66/13 181} 10. Be2 {2} Bxe2 {-2.66/12 11} 11. Qxe2 {1} Nd4 {
>>>>-2.74/12 11} 12. Qd1 {2} Nd7 {-2.72/10 10} 13. Qh5 {2} g6 {-1.39/9 12} 14. Qh6
>>>>{2} Nf5 {3.84/9 9} 15. exf5 {9} Re8 {3.50/9 2} 16. fxg6 {5} fxg6 {4.01/8 12}
>>>>17. Qxg6+ {4} Kf8 {18.99/12 119} 18. f5 {22} Re6 {21.53/12 0} 19. fxe6 {8} Qe8
>>>>{21.27/11 0} 20. Rf1+ {18} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>[D]r2q1rk1/ppp2pp1/3p1n2/2b1p1P1/2PnPP2/2NP3N/PP4P1/R2QK2R b KQ - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Nemeth,E - Toga II 1.0, Blitz:10' Privat, 01.11. 2005
>>>>r2q1rk1/ppp2pp1/3p1n2/2b1p1P1/2PnPP2/2NP3N/PP4P1/R2QK2R b KQ - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>Analysis by Toga II 1.0:
>>>>
>>>>12...Sd7 13.Sg1 g6 14.Dg4 Kg7 15.0-0-0 Se6 16.g3 exf4 17.gxf4 Le3+ 18.Kb1 Sxf4
>>>> -+ (-2.55) Tiefe: 11/35 00:00:16 3326kN
>>>>12...Sd7 13.Dh5 f5 14.Sf2 Sf6 15.gxf6 Txf6 16.Dh7+ Kf7 17.0-0-0 Tg6 18.fxe5 dxe5
>>>>19.exf5 Txg2
>>>> ² (0.47) Tiefe: 12/52 00:03:48 54076kN
>>>>
>>>>What says Fruit 2.2.1?
>>>
>>>Fruit is relatively better than Toga but still has problems to avoid Nd7
>>>
>>>analysis on A3000.
>>>
>>>Nemeth,E - Toga II 1.0, Blitz:10' 2005
>>>r2q1rk1/ppp2pp1/3p1n2/2b1p1P1/2PnPP2/2NP3N/PP4P1/R2QK2R b KQ - 0 1
>>>
>>>Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:
>>>
>>>12...Nd7
>>> -+ (-2.58) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00
>>>12...Nd7 13.f5
>>> -+ (-2.85) Depth: 2/9 00:00:00
>>>12...Nd7 13.f5 Qe7
>>> -+ (-2.63) Depth: 3/9 00:00:00
>>>12...Nd7 13.f5 Bb4 14.Qc1 Bxc3+ 15.Qxc3
>>> -+ (-2.97) Depth: 4/11 00:00:00
>>>12...Nd7 13.f5 Bb4 14.Qc1 Bxc3+ 15.Qxc3 Nc5
>>> -+ (-2.92) Depth: 5/15 00:00:00
>>>12...Nd7 13.f5 Bb4 14.a3 Ba5 15.b4
>>> -+ (-2.90) Depth: 6/16 00:00:00 26kN
>>>12...Nd7 13.f5 Bb4 14.a3 Bxc3+ 15.bxc3 Nc6 16.Rb1 Nc5
>>> -+ (-2.71) Depth: 7/20 00:00:00 61kN
>>>12...Nd7 13.Nf2 f5 14.gxf6 Nxf6 15.f5 Bb4 16.Qd2 Bxc3 17.Qxc3
>>> -+ (-2.60) Depth: 8/31 00:00:00 319kN
>>>12...Nd7 13.Ng1 g6 14.g3 Kg7 15.Nf3 Rh8 16.Rxh8 Qxh8 17.Nxd4 Bxd4
>>> -+ (-2.38) Depth: 9/38 00:00:02 1480kN
>>>12...Nd7 13.Ng1 g6 14.Qg4 Kg7 15.0-0-0 Ne6 16.g3 exf4 17.gxf4 Be3+ 18.Kb1 Nxf4
>>> -+ (-2.29) Depth: 10/38 00:00:03 2084kN
>>>12...Nd7 13.Qh5 f5 14.Nf2 Nc2+ 15.Kf1 Ne3+ 16.Kg1 Ng4 17.Qh7+ Kf7 18.Qh5+ g6
>>>19.Qh7+ Ke8 20.Qxg6+ Rf7 21.Rh8+ Nf8
>>> = (-0.06) Depth: 11/51 00:00:15 11265kN
>>>12...Ne8 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qh4 Ng7 15.0-0-0 Nh5 16.Kb1 c6 17.Ka1 a5
>>> -+ (-1.78) Depth: 11/51 00:00:20 14560kN
>>>12...Nh7 13.Nf2 g6 14.Qg4 f5 15.gxf6 Qxf6 16.Nd5 Qg7 17.b4 Nc2+ 18.Kd2 Nxa1
>>>19.bxc5 exf4 20.cxd6
>>> -+ (-2.42) Depth: 11/51 00:00:22 15865kN
>>>12...Nh7 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qh6 Qd7 15.0-0-0 Ne6 16.Nf2 f6 17.d4 Nxf4 18.dxc5 Nxg5
>>>19.cxd6 cxd6
>>> µ (-1.04) Depth: 12/58 00:00:33 23660kN
>>>12...Ne8 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qh6 Ng7 15.Nd5 Nh5 16.Nf2 Nc2+ 17.Kd2 Nxa1 18.Nf6+ Qxf6
>>>19.gxf6 Bxf2 20.Rxa1 Nxf6
>>> µ (-1.11) Depth: 12/58 00:00:40 28492kN
>>>12...Ne8 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qh6 Ng7 15.Nd5 Nh5 16.Nf2 Nc2+ 17.Kd2 Nxa1 18.Nf6+ Qxf6
>>>19.gxf6 Bxf2 20.Rxa1 Nxf6
>>> µ (-1.11) Depth: 13/58 00:00:53 37362kN
>>>12...Ne8 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qh6 f5 15.fxe5 Qe7 16.Nf4 Qg7 17.Nxg6 Rf7 18.0-0-0 Qxh6
>>>19.gxh6 fxe4 20.Nxe4
>>> = (-0.15) Depth: 14/58 00:01:43 72595kN
>>>12...Nh7 13.Qh5 g6 14.Qh6 Qd7 15.0-0-0 f6 16.Qxg6+ Qg7 17.Qh5 fxg5 18.fxg5 Ne6
>>>19.g6 Nf6 20.Qf5
>>> µ (-0.98) Depth: 14/58 00:02:02 85913kN
>>>
>>>(, 01.11.2005)
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>I seems anyway that after this line (Nh7) Black is after 13. Nd5!! LOST.
>
>
>How can make white progress after 13...c6 ?
>
>Wie kann Weiß weiterkommen nach 13...c6 ?
>
>1... Nh7 2. Nd5 c6 3. Qh5 cxd5 4. Nf2 Re8 5. Qxh7+ Kf8
>6. Qh8+ Ke7 7. Qxg7 Nc2+ 8. Ke2 Nxa1 and white is lost...
>
>Joachim
Hello Joachim, I am sure that I will wins with my many trojans againt Fruit
2.2.1 or Toga II many games (Against Fritz and Shredder (and Crafty) I will not
win also).
Of course, white play first f5 and later Nd5, like here in the Praxis:
[Event "Blitz:10'"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2005.11.01"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth, E."]
[Black "Toga II 1.0"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A20"]
[Annotator "Nemeth,E"]
[PlyCount "53"]
[EventDate "2005.??.??"]
{64MB, general.ctg, P3 600 MHz} 1. c4 {0} e5 {0} 2. e4 {2} Nc6 {0} 3. Nc3 {3}
Nf6 {0} 4. d3 {6} Bc5 {-0.37/11 13} 5. h4 {8} O-O {-0.48/11 25} 6. Bg5 {3} h6 {
-0.93/11 15} 7. Nh3 {7} d6 {-1.57/11 22} 8. f4 {2} hxg5 {-4.25/11 15} 9. hxg5 {
2} Bg4 {-2.66/13 181} 10. Be2 {2} Bxe2 {-2.66/12 11} 11. Qxe2 {1} Nd4 {
-2.74/12 11} 12. Qd1 {2} Nh7 13. f5 {
Of course first f5. Toga II 1.0 played here with Rest time 30m. 0} g6 {
-2.72/11 80} 14. Qg4 {6} Nc2+ {-2.45/11 68} 15. Kd2 {0} Nxa1 {-1.04/12 41} 16.
Nd5 {29} Qd7 {-2.56/11 64} 17. Qh4 {0} f6 {-0.60/10 82} 18. gxf6 {31} Nxf6 {
1.61/10 141} 19. Qxf6 {48} Rae8 {1.71/12 0} 20. Qxg6+ {20} Qg7 {1.48/13 20} 21.
Qxg7+ {9} Kxg7 {1.48/13 0} 22. Nxc7 {16} Rc8 {1.80/14 49} 23. Ne6+ {5} Kf6 {
1.97/16 44} 24. Nxf8 {6} Rxf8 {1.94/16 49} 25. g4 {2} Rh8 {2.07/16 26} 26. g5+
{1} Ke7 {1.94/16 54} 27. Kc1 $18 {White is winning. 8} 1-0
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