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Subject: Re: Moderation please

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 21:56:24 11/01/05

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On November 01, 2005 at 20:42:45, Ryan B. wrote:

>On November 01, 2005 at 08:43:28, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>>>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>>>[Round "-"]
>>>[White "Fruit 2.2"]
>>>[Black "Ryan"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[TimeControl "40/180"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8.
>>>Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. Qf2 Nfd7 11. O-O-O Bb7 12. Kb1 Rc8 13. h4 Be7 14. a3
>>>O-O 15. h5 h6 16. Nb3 Rxc3 17. bxc3 Qc7 18. Bd2 d5 19. Na5 dxe4 20. Nxb7
>>>Qxb7 21. fxe4 Nc5 22. Bd3 Nc4 23. Ka1 Na4 24. g5 Bxg5 25. Bxc4 Qe7 26. Ba2
>>>Qxa3 27. Rb1 Nxc3 28. Bxc3 Qxc3+ 29. Rb2 Bf6 30. Rb1 Rd8 31. Qe1 Rd2 32.
>>>Bb3 Qa5+ 33. Ba2 Bc3 34. Qg1 Qa3 35. Qc1
>>>{White resigns} 0-1
>>
>>As you stated before "I beat Fruit 2.2 more often than I beat Prodeo", surely
>>there must be more than one game?
>
>I guess I could post another game for people to analyze and criticize my moves.
>If I would have known I would get such a response I would have just said nothing
>and left the subject alone.
>
>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>[Date "2005.11.01"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Ryan"]
>[Black "Fruit 2.2.1"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[TimeControl "900"]
>
>1. e4 e5 2. d4 Nc6 3. d5 Nce7 4. Nf3 Ng6 5. Be2 Nf6 6. Bd3 Bc5 7. Qe2 O-O 8. Bd2
>d6 9. Nc3 Bg4 10. h3 Bd7 11. g4 a5 12. Rh2 a4 13. a3 c6 14. O-O-O cxd5 15. Nxd5
>Nxd5 16. exd5 Rc8 17. Bxg6 fxg6 18. Ng5 Ba7 19. Be3 Bb8 20. Qd2 Qe8 21. f4 h6
>22. fxe5 hxg5 23. e6 Bb5 24. h4 Bf1 25. hxg5 Qb5 26. Bd4 Rf3 27. Qe1 Qxd5 28.
>Qh4 Bh3 29. Rxh3 Rxc2+ 30. Kxc2 Qb3+ 31. Kc1 Rxh3 32. e7 Kf7 33. Qe1 Ke8 34. Qe4
>Rf3 35. Rh1 Rf1+ 36. Rxf1 Qc4+ 37. Kd2 Qxf1 38. Qxb7 Qf4+ 39. Kc3 Qg3+ 40. Kc2
>d5 41. Qxd5 Kxe7 42. Bxg7 Qf2+ 43. Kb1 Qe1+ 44. Ka2 Qe6 45. Bf6+ Kf7 46. Qxe6
>Kxe6 47. b3 axb3+ 48. Kxb3 Bd6 49. a4 Kd5 50. Kc3 Bf4 51. Kb4 Kc6
>52. Kc4 Bd2 53. Kd4 Bf4 54. a5 Bd6 55. Ke4 Kc5 56. a6 Kc6 57. a7 Kb7 58. Kd5 Bf4
>59. Ke6 Kxa7 60. Kf7
>{Black resigns} 1-0

It is clear based on this game that
with better search fruit could avoid 22...hxg5 that seems to be a tactical
mistake.



Ryan - Fruit 2.2.1, Computer chess game 2005
[D]1br1qrk1/1p1b2p1/3p2pp/3PP1N1/p5P1/P3B2P/1PPQ3R/2KR4 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:

22...hxg5
  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6
  -+  (-1.44)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5
  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 3/9   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5
  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7
  µ  (-0.97)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.e7 Rf3
  µ  (-1.03)   Depth: 6/13   00:00:00  11kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Qb4 Bc5
  µ  (-0.83)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  25kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Rf3 25.Qd4 Rc4 26.Qb6
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  57kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Rf3 25.Qd4 Bc7 26.Rf2 Rxh3
  ³  (-0.57)   Depth: 9/19   00:00:01  102kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Be3 b6 26.Rf2 Rf6 27.Qb4
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:01  259kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Be3 Bxe3 26.Qxe3 Qe7 27.Rhd2 Qf6 28.e7 Rf7
  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 11/23   00:00:01  512kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Be3 Bxe3 26.Qxe3 Qe7 27.Rhd2 g5 28.Rf2 Rxf2
29.Qxf2
  ³  (-0.51)   Depth: 12/27   00:00:02  1051kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Be3 Bxe3 26.Qxe3 Qe7 27.Kb1 Qf6 28.e7 Rf7
29.Qb6 Bd7
  ³  (-0.43)   Depth: 13/29   00:00:03  2207kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.h4 Bf1 25.Qe1 Rf3 26.hxg5 Bh3 27.Qe2 Bxg4 28.Rdh1 Rh3
29.Qxg4 Rxe3
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 14/39   00:00:10  6910kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.h4 Bf1 25.Qe1 Rf3 26.hxg5 Qb5 27.Qh4 Bh3 28.Bd4 Rd3
29.Rxd3 Qxd3
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 15/43   00:00:30  22548kN
22...Qxe5 23.Ne6 Rf3 24.Bf4 Qf6 25.Rf2 Rxf2 26.Qxf2 Bxe6 27.dxe6 g5 28.Bg3 Qxe6
29.Qd4 Qe2 30.Qd2 Qf3 31.Qd5+ Qxd5 32.Rxd5
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 15/43   00:00:47  35356kN
22...Qxe5 23.Ne6 Bxe6 24.dxe6 Qxe6 25.Rf2 Rfe8 26.Bd4 d5 27.Bc3 Ba7 28.Bd4 Bc5
29.Kb1 Kh7 30.Bxc5 Rxc5 31.Qd4 Qe3 32.Qxe3 Rxe3
  =  (-0.24)   Depth: 16/45   00:02:48  131178kN

(,  02.11.2005)


Note that fruit need depth 15 and not depth 14 because of history pruning.
Without history pruning it needs depth 14 but more time to avoid hzg5

Ryan - Fruit 2.2.1, Computer chess game 2005
1br1qrk1/1p1b2p1/3p2pp/3PP1N1/p5P1/P3B2P/1PPQ3R/2KR4 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:

22...hxg5
  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6
  -+  (-1.44)   Depth: 2/7   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5
  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 3/9   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5
  µ  (-0.95)   Depth: 4/9   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7
  µ  (-0.97)   Depth: 5/11   00:00:00
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.e7 Rf3
  µ  (-1.03)   Depth: 6/13   00:00:00  12kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Qb4 Bc5
  µ  (-0.83)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  29kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Rf3 25.Qd4 Rc4 26.Qb6
  µ  (-0.87)   Depth: 8/16   00:00:00  73kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Rf3 25.Qd4 Bc7 26.Rf2 Rxh3
  ³  (-0.57)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:01  154kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Be3 b6 26.Rf2 Rf6 27.Qb4
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:01  431kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.Bxg5 Ba7 25.Be3 Bxe3 26.Qxe3 Qe7 27.Rhd2 Qf6 28.e7 Rf7
  ³  (-0.56)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:02  979kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.h4 Bf1 25.hxg5 Qb5 26.Rf2 Rxf2 27.Qxf2 Rf8 28.Bf4 Be2
  ³  (-0.59)   Depth: 12/41   00:00:05  3446kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.h4 Bf1 25.hxg5 Qb5 26.Qd4 Rc4 27.e7 Rf7 28.Qb6 Qe8 29.Rh1
  ³  (-0.35)   Depth: 13/41   00:00:08  5801kN
22...hxg5 23.e6 Bb5 24.h4 Rf1 25.Rxf1 Bxf1 26.hxg5 Bc4 27.Kb1 Qe7 28.Qd4 b5
29.Bf4 Ba7
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 14/41   00:00:26  18299kN
22...Qxe5 23.Ne6 Bxe6 24.dxe6 Qxe6 25.Rf2 Rxf2 26.Bxf2 Rf8 27.Kb1 Qe4 28.Bd4 Qf3
29.Qe1 Bc7 30.Qe6+ Kh7 31.Rd3 Qf1+ 32.Ka2
  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 14/43   00:01:48  82603kN

(,  02.11.2005)

Uri



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