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Subject: Re: Moderation please

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:05:24 11/02/05

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On November 02, 2005 at 01:12:43, Ryan B. wrote:

>On November 01, 2005 at 22:44:50, gerold daniels wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2005 at 08:16:47, Ryan B. wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2005 at 07:15:58, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 04:59:32, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 04:38:38, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>I beat Fruit 2.2 more often than I beat Prodeo.  In the human world of chess it
>>>>>takes a lot more than a few mobility factors and placing pieces in the center to
>>>>>have a positional style.  Fruit is a very good engine but it is better at
>>>>>beating computers than humans in my experiance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ryan
>>>>
>>>>Another human claiming he can beat one of our top programs, without posted the
>>>>games. Doesnt the charter say that if you claim to beat the top programs, you
>>>>must post some of the games? I think the charter says it is ok not to post games
>>>>where human beat Diep or Movei.
>>>>
>>>>kburcham
>>>
>>>Wow at least give me some time to respond before calling for moderation.  I just
>>>said I have beaten Fruit, I did not claim to be better than it or that I am some
>>>sort of computer killer.  Anywhay here is a quick king safty win. Resign value
>>>was at -6.  Thanks and have a nice day I guess.  Just don't have me moderated
>>>for playing chess...
>>>
>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>>>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>>>[Round "-"]
>>>[White "Fruit 2.2"]
>>>[Black "Ryan"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[TimeControl "40/180"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8.
>>>Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. Qf2 Nfd7 11. O-O-O Bb7 12. Kb1 Rc8 13. h4 Be7 14. a3
>>>O-O 15. h5 h6 16. Nb3 Rxc3 17. bxc3 Qc7 18. Bd2 d5 19. Na5 dxe4 20. Nxb7
>>>Qxb7 21. fxe4 Nc5 22. Bd3 Nc4 23. Ka1 Na4 24. g5 Bxg5 25. Bxc4 Qe7 26. Ba2
>>>Qxa3 27. Rb1 Nxc3 28. Bxc3 Qxc3+ 29. Rb2 Bf6 30. Rb1 Rd8 31. Qe1 Rd2 32.
>>>Bb3 Qa5+ 33. Ba2 Bc3 34. Qg1 Qa3 35. Qc1
>>>{White resigns} 0-1
>>
>>Hello Ryan. Nice game. Not often a person can beat a top engine. Enjoyed the
>>game. Please post some more. Be happy to review them.
>>
>>Good luck,
>>
>>Gerold.
>
>Thanks,  here is another game.  Let me know what you think of the opening.
>
>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>[Date "2005.10.28"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Ryan"]
>[Black "Fruit 2.2"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[TimeControl "900"]
>
>1. g3 d5 2. Bg2 g6 3. c3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Bh6 5. O-O Nc6 6. d4 Bxc1 7. Qxc1 O-O 8. Re1
>Bf5 9. Nbd2 Rb8 10. Nh4 e6 11. e4 dxe4 12. Nxe4 Bxe4 13. Bxe4 Nxe4 14. Rxe4 Qd5
>15. Qe3 Rbe8 16. Nf3 Rd8 17. b3 Ne7 18. c4 Qa5 19. g4 Nc6 20. h4 f5 21. gxf5
>exf5 22. Re6 f4 23. Qe4 Rd7 24. d5 Nd8 25. Re8 Qb4 26. Ng5 c6 27. Re1 cxd5 28.
>Rxf8+ Qxf8 29. Qe8 Rg7 30. cxd5 h6 31. Nf3 g5 32. Kh2 g4 33. Nd4 Rf7 34. d6 Qxe8
>35. Rxe8+ Rf8 36. d7 Kf7 37. Nf5 h5 38. Nd6+ Kg7 39. a4 b6 40. Ne4 Rg8 41. b4 f3
>42. Kg3 a5 43. b5 Rh8 44. Ng5 Nb7 45. Ne6+ Kh7 46. Rxh8+ Kxh8 47. d8=Q+
>{Black resigns} 1-0
>
>
>Ryan

Again fruit suffers from not searching deep enough
21...Qxf5 is better


Ryan - Fruit 2.2, Computer chess game 2005
[D]3r1rk1/ppp4p/2n1p1p1/q4P2/2PPR2P/1P2QN2/P4P2/R5K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:

21...Qxf5 22.Ne5 Nxe5 23.Rxe5
  ³  (-0.55)   Depth: 1/9   00:00:00
21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5
  =  (0.18)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qd3
  ³  (-0.42)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qd3 Kh8
  =  (-0.25)   Depth: 4/13   00:00:00
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1 Rd7
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 6/17   00:00:00  39kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1 Rd7 25.d5
  ³  (-0.36)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  78kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Nxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
Kg8 28.Qg6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  212kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Nxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
Kg8 28.Qg6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/30   00:00:01  428kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
Kg8 28.Qg6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:01  881kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
Kg8 28.Qg6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:02  1884kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
Kg8 28.Qg6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/41   00:00:04  3508kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
Kg8 28.Qg6+
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/44   00:00:09  6796kN
21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Rd1 Rd7 25.h5 gxh5 26.Re8 Rg7+ 27.Kh2 Qb4
28.c5 h4 29.Qd5+ Rgf7
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 14/51   00:00:27  21642kN
21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 14/51   00:00:39  30928kN
21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 15/51   00:00:59  47014kN
21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 16/51   00:01:36  76284kN
21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 17/51   00:03:14  155593kN

(,  02.11.2005)



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