Author: Ryan B.
Date: 03:36:57 11/02/05
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On November 02, 2005 at 03:05:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>On November 02, 2005 at 01:12:43, Ryan B. wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2005 at 22:44:50, gerold daniels wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2005 at 08:16:47, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 07:15:58, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 04:59:32, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 04:38:38, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I beat Fruit 2.2 more often than I beat Prodeo. In the human world of chess it
>>>>>>takes a lot more than a few mobility factors and placing pieces in the center to
>>>>>>have a positional style. Fruit is a very good engine but it is better at
>>>>>>beating computers than humans in my experiance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ryan
>>>>>
>>>>>Another human claiming he can beat one of our top programs, without posted the
>>>>>games. Doesnt the charter say that if you claim to beat the top programs, you
>>>>>must post some of the games? I think the charter says it is ok not to post games
>>>>>where human beat Diep or Movei.
>>>>>
>>>>>kburcham
>>>>
>>>>Wow at least give me some time to respond before calling for moderation. I just
>>>>said I have beaten Fruit, I did not claim to be better than it or that I am some
>>>>sort of computer killer. Anywhay here is a quick king safty win. Resign value
>>>>was at -6. Thanks and have a nice day I guess. Just don't have me moderated
>>>>for playing chess...
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>>>>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>[White "Fruit 2.2"]
>>>>[Black "Ryan"]
>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>[TimeControl "40/180"]
>>>>
>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8.
>>>>Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. Qf2 Nfd7 11. O-O-O Bb7 12. Kb1 Rc8 13. h4 Be7 14. a3
>>>>O-O 15. h5 h6 16. Nb3 Rxc3 17. bxc3 Qc7 18. Bd2 d5 19. Na5 dxe4 20. Nxb7
>>>>Qxb7 21. fxe4 Nc5 22. Bd3 Nc4 23. Ka1 Na4 24. g5 Bxg5 25. Bxc4 Qe7 26. Ba2
>>>>Qxa3 27. Rb1 Nxc3 28. Bxc3 Qxc3+ 29. Rb2 Bf6 30. Rb1 Rd8 31. Qe1 Rd2 32.
>>>>Bb3 Qa5+ 33. Ba2 Bc3 34. Qg1 Qa3 35. Qc1
>>>>{White resigns} 0-1
>>>
>>>Hello Ryan. Nice game. Not often a person can beat a top engine. Enjoyed the
>>>game. Please post some more. Be happy to review them.
>>>
>>>Good luck,
>>>
>>>Gerold.
>>
>>Thanks, here is another game. Let me know what you think of the opening.
>>
>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>>[Date "2005.10.28"]
>>[Round "-"]
>>[White "Ryan"]
>>[Black "Fruit 2.2"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[TimeControl "900"]
>>
>>1. g3 d5 2. Bg2 g6 3. c3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Bh6 5. O-O Nc6 6. d4 Bxc1 7. Qxc1 O-O 8. Re1
>>Bf5 9. Nbd2 Rb8 10. Nh4 e6 11. e4 dxe4 12. Nxe4 Bxe4 13. Bxe4 Nxe4 14. Rxe4 Qd5
>>15. Qe3 Rbe8 16. Nf3 Rd8 17. b3 Ne7 18. c4 Qa5 19. g4 Nc6 20. h4 f5 21. gxf5
>>exf5 22. Re6 f4 23. Qe4 Rd7 24. d5 Nd8 25. Re8 Qb4 26. Ng5 c6 27. Re1 cxd5 28.
>>Rxf8+ Qxf8 29. Qe8 Rg7 30. cxd5 h6 31. Nf3 g5 32. Kh2 g4 33. Nd4 Rf7 34. d6 Qxe8
>>35. Rxe8+ Rf8 36. d7 Kf7 37. Nf5 h5 38. Nd6+ Kg7 39. a4 b6 40. Ne4 Rg8 41. b4 f3
>>42. Kg3 a5 43. b5 Rh8 44. Ng5 Nb7 45. Ne6+ Kh7 46. Rxh8+ Kxh8 47. d8=Q+
>>{Black resigns} 1-0
>>
>>
>>Ryan
>
>Again fruit suffers from not searching deep enough
>21...Qxf5 is better
>
>
>Ryan - Fruit 2.2, Computer chess game 2005
>[D]3r1rk1/ppp4p/2n1p1p1/q4P2/2PPR2P/1P2QN2/P4P2/R5K1 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:
>
>21...Qxf5 22.Ne5 Nxe5 23.Rxe5
> ³ (-0.55) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00
>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5
> = (0.18) Depth: 2/13 00:00:00
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4
> = (-0.17) Depth: 2/13 00:00:00
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qd3
> ³ (-0.42) Depth: 3/13 00:00:00
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qd3 Kh8
> = (-0.25) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1
> ³ (-0.40) Depth: 5/13 00:00:00
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1 Rd7
> = (-0.16) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 39kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1 Rd7 25.d5
> ³ (-0.36) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 78kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Nxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>Kg8 28.Qg6+
> = (0.00) Depth: 8/23 00:00:00 212kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Nxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>Kg8 28.Qg6+
> = (0.00) Depth: 9/30 00:00:01 428kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>Kg8 28.Qg6+
> = (0.00) Depth: 10/30 00:00:01 881kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>Kg8 28.Qg6+
> = (0.00) Depth: 11/30 00:00:02 1884kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>Kg8 28.Qg6+
> = (0.00) Depth: 12/41 00:00:04 3508kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>Kg8 28.Qg6+
> = (0.00) Depth: 13/44 00:00:09 6796kN
>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Rd1 Rd7 25.h5 gxh5 26.Re8 Rg7+ 27.Kh2 Qb4
>28.c5 h4 29.Qd5+ Rgf7
> ² (0.51) Depth: 14/51 00:00:27 21642kN
>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
> = (0.00) Depth: 14/51 00:00:39 30928kN
>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
> = (0.00) Depth: 15/51 00:00:59 47014kN
>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
> = (0.00) Depth: 16/51 00:01:36 76284kN
>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
> = (0.00) Depth: 17/51 00:03:14 155593kN
>
>(, 02.11.2005)
I think every program finds better moves at higher search depth. Here is a
longer game I just played. Maybe someone can tell me how their engines analyze
my attack.
[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
[Date "2005.11.02"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Ryan"]
[Black "Fruit 2.2.1"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
1. g3 d5 2. Bg2 Nf6 3. d4 e6 4. Nf3 b5 5. Bf4 Nc6 6. Qd2 Ne4 7. Qe3 Be7 8. Nc3
Nxc3 9. bxc3 O-O 10. g4 f6 11. h4 Bd6 12. g5 {should have played Bxd6} Bxf4 13.
Qxf4 e5 14. Qg3 e4 15. Nd2 Rb8 16. O-O-O Qe7 17. Kb1 Ba6 18. g6 hxg6 19. h5 g5
20. Qe3 Qa3 21. h6 b4 22. Nb3 Rf7 23. hxg7 Rxg7 24. Rh6 Bc4 25. Rxf6 bxc3 26.
Qxc3 Nb4 27. Qb2 Qxb2+ 28. Kxb2 a5 29. Rh1 a4 30. Rfh6 Kf7 31. Nc5 Nxa2+ 32. Ka3
Nc3 33. e3 g4 34. Bf1 Nb1+ 35. Kxa4 Nc3+ 36. Ka3 Ra8+ 37. Kb2 Nd1+ 38. Kb1 Ba2+
39. Kc1 Nxf2 40. Rg1 Rb8 41. Kd2 Rb6 42. Rxb6 cxb6 43. Nd7 b5 44. Bxb5 g3 45.
Ne5+ Ke6 46. Bf1 Kd6 47. Kc3 Nd1+ 48. Kd2 Nb2 49. Kc3 Nd1+ 50. Kd2 Nb2 51. Kc3
Nd1+
{Draw by repetition} 1/2-1/2
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