Author: Jake Sisko
Date: 05:19:27 11/02/05
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On November 02, 2005 at 06:36:57, Ryan B. wrote:
>On November 02, 2005 at 03:05:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 02, 2005 at 01:12:43, Ryan B. wrote:
>>
>>>On November 01, 2005 at 22:44:50, gerold daniels wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 08:16:47, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 07:15:58, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 04:59:32, Ryan B. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On November 01, 2005 at 04:38:38, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I beat Fruit 2.2 more often than I beat Prodeo. In the human world of chess it
>>>>>>>takes a lot more than a few mobility factors and placing pieces in the center to
>>>>>>>have a positional style. Fruit is a very good engine but it is better at
>>>>>>>beating computers than humans in my experiance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Another human claiming he can beat one of our top programs, without posted the
>>>>>>games. Doesnt the charter say that if you claim to beat the top programs, you
>>>>>>must post some of the games? I think the charter says it is ok not to post games
>>>>>>where human beat Diep or Movei.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>kburcham
>>>>>
>>>>>Wow at least give me some time to respond before calling for moderation. I just
>>>>>said I have beaten Fruit, I did not claim to be better than it or that I am some
>>>>>sort of computer killer. Anywhay here is a quick king safty win. Resign value
>>>>>was at -6. Thanks and have a nice day I guess. Just don't have me moderated
>>>>>for playing chess...
>>>>>
>>>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>>>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>>>>>[Date "2005.10.30"]
>>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>>[White "Fruit 2.2"]
>>>>>[Black "Ryan"]
>>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>>[TimeControl "40/180"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 e6 7. f3 b5 8.
>>>>>Qd2 Nbd7 9. g4 Nb6 10. Qf2 Nfd7 11. O-O-O Bb7 12. Kb1 Rc8 13. h4 Be7 14. a3
>>>>>O-O 15. h5 h6 16. Nb3 Rxc3 17. bxc3 Qc7 18. Bd2 d5 19. Na5 dxe4 20. Nxb7
>>>>>Qxb7 21. fxe4 Nc5 22. Bd3 Nc4 23. Ka1 Na4 24. g5 Bxg5 25. Bxc4 Qe7 26. Ba2
>>>>>Qxa3 27. Rb1 Nxc3 28. Bxc3 Qxc3+ 29. Rb2 Bf6 30. Rb1 Rd8 31. Qe1 Rd2 32.
>>>>>Bb3 Qa5+ 33. Ba2 Bc3 34. Qg1 Qa3 35. Qc1
>>>>>{White resigns} 0-1
>>>>
>>>>Hello Ryan. Nice game. Not often a person can beat a top engine. Enjoyed the
>>>>game. Please post some more. Be happy to review them.
>>>>
>>>>Good luck,
>>>>
>>>>Gerold.
>>>
>>>Thanks, here is another game. Let me know what you think of the opening.
>>>
>>>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>>>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>>>[Date "2005.10.28"]
>>>[Round "-"]
>>>[White "Ryan"]
>>>[Black "Fruit 2.2"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[TimeControl "900"]
>>>
>>>1. g3 d5 2. Bg2 g6 3. c3 Nf6 4. Nf3 Bh6 5. O-O Nc6 6. d4 Bxc1 7. Qxc1 O-O 8. Re1
>>>Bf5 9. Nbd2 Rb8 10. Nh4 e6 11. e4 dxe4 12. Nxe4 Bxe4 13. Bxe4 Nxe4 14. Rxe4 Qd5
>>>15. Qe3 Rbe8 16. Nf3 Rd8 17. b3 Ne7 18. c4 Qa5 19. g4 Nc6 20. h4 f5 21. gxf5
>>>exf5 22. Re6 f4 23. Qe4 Rd7 24. d5 Nd8 25. Re8 Qb4 26. Ng5 c6 27. Re1 cxd5 28.
>>>Rxf8+ Qxf8 29. Qe8 Rg7 30. cxd5 h6 31. Nf3 g5 32. Kh2 g4 33. Nd4 Rf7 34. d6 Qxe8
>>>35. Rxe8+ Rf8 36. d7 Kf7 37. Nf5 h5 38. Nd6+ Kg7 39. a4 b6 40. Ne4 Rg8 41. b4 f3
>>>42. Kg3 a5 43. b5 Rh8 44. Ng5 Nb7 45. Ne6+ Kh7 46. Rxh8+ Kxh8 47. d8=Q+
>>>{Black resigns} 1-0
>>>
>>>
>>>Ryan
>>
>>Again fruit suffers from not searching deep enough
>>21...Qxf5 is better
>>
>>
>>Ryan - Fruit 2.2, Computer chess game 2005
>>[D]3r1rk1/ppp4p/2n1p1p1/q4P2/2PPR2P/1P2QN2/P4P2/R5K1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Fruit 2.2.1:
>>
>>21...Qxf5 22.Ne5 Nxe5 23.Rxe5
>> ³ (-0.55) Depth: 1/9 00:00:00
>>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5
>> = (0.18) Depth: 2/13 00:00:00
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4
>> = (-0.17) Depth: 2/13 00:00:00
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qd3
>> ³ (-0.42) Depth: 3/13 00:00:00
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qd3 Kh8
>> = (-0.25) Depth: 4/13 00:00:00
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1
>> ³ (-0.40) Depth: 5/13 00:00:00
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1 Rd7
>> = (-0.16) Depth: 6/17 00:00:00 39kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Kh8 24.Kh1 Rd7 25.d5
>> ³ (-0.36) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 78kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Nxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>>Kg8 28.Qg6+
>> = (0.00) Depth: 8/23 00:00:00 212kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Nxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>>Kg8 28.Qg6+
>> = (0.00) Depth: 9/30 00:00:01 428kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>>Kg8 28.Qg6+
>> = (0.00) Depth: 10/30 00:00:01 881kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>>Kg8 28.Qg6+
>> = (0.00) Depth: 11/30 00:00:02 1884kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>>Kg8 28.Qg6+
>> = (0.00) Depth: 12/41 00:00:04 3508kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Re1 Rxd4 25.Rxg6+ hxg6 26.Qxg6+ Kh8 27.Qh6+
>>Kg8 28.Qg6+
>> = (0.00) Depth: 13/44 00:00:09 6796kN
>>21...exf5 22.Re6 f4 23.Qe4 Qc3 24.Rd1 Rd7 25.h5 gxh5 26.Re8 Rg7+ 27.Kh2 Qb4
>>28.c5 h4 29.Qd5+ Rgf7
>> ² (0.51) Depth: 14/51 00:00:27 21642kN
>>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
>> = (0.00) Depth: 14/51 00:00:39 30928kN
>>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
>> = (0.00) Depth: 15/51 00:00:59 47014kN
>>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
>> = (0.00) Depth: 16/51 00:01:36 76284kN
>>21...Qxf5 22.Ng5 e5 23.dxe5 Nb4 24.e6 Nc2 25.Qe2 Nd4 26.Qe1 Nc2 27.Qe2
>> = (0.00) Depth: 17/51 00:03:14 155593kN
>>
>>(, 02.11.2005)
>
>I think every program finds better moves at higher search depth. Here is a
>longer game I just played. Maybe someone can tell me how their engines analyze
>my attack.
>
>[Event "Computer chess game"]
>[Site "localhost.localdomain"]
>[Date "2005.11.02"]
>[Round "-"]
>[White "Ryan"]
>[Black "Fruit 2.2.1"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[TimeControl "3600"]
>
>1. g3 d5 2. Bg2 Nf6 3. d4 e6 4. Nf3 b5 5. Bf4 Nc6 6. Qd2 Ne4 7. Qe3 Be7 8. Nc3
>Nxc3 9. bxc3 O-O 10. g4 f6 11. h4 Bd6 12. g5 {should have played Bxd6} Bxf4 13.
>Qxf4 e5 14. Qg3 e4 15. Nd2 Rb8 16. O-O-O Qe7 17. Kb1 Ba6 18. g6 hxg6 19. h5 g5
>20. Qe3 Qa3 21. h6 b4 22. Nb3 Rf7 23. hxg7 Rxg7 24. Rh6 Bc4 25. Rxf6 bxc3 26.
>Qxc3 Nb4 27. Qb2 Qxb2+ 28. Kxb2 a5 29. Rh1 a4 30. Rfh6 Kf7 31. Nc5 Nxa2+ 32. Ka3
>Nc3 33. e3 g4 34. Bf1 Nb1+ 35. Kxa4 Nc3+ 36. Ka3 Ra8+ 37. Kb2 Nd1+ 38. Kb1 Ba2+
>39. Kc1 Nxf2 40. Rg1 Rb8 41. Kd2 Rb6 42. Rxb6 cxb6 43. Nd7 b5 44. Bxb5 g3 45.
>Ne5+ Ke6 46. Bf1 Kd6 47. Kc3 Nd1+ 48. Kd2 Nb2 49. Kc3 Nd1+ 50. Kd2 Nb2 51. Kc3
>Nd1+
>{Draw by repetition} 1/2-1/2
May I ask your rating Sir? You seem to accomplish what many of my master friends
cannot!
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