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Subject: Re: A "mystery" with dual core

Author: Chessfun

Date: 10:38:39 11/02/05

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On November 02, 2005 at 13:09:51, Gregory Owett wrote:

>On November 02, 2005 at 12:37:09, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On November 02, 2005 at 12:28:37, Gregory Owett wrote:
>>
>>>On November 02, 2005 at 11:24:10, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 02, 2005 at 10:57:35, Gregory Owett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Recently, I launched two tournaments (ponder off) with the same participants, on
>>>>>two different machines.  Here results:
>>>>>
>>>>>On P4 2.2 T=15'+5" :
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Fruit 2.2.1 KS104     7,5 / 10
>>>>>2. Shredder 9 UCI        5,5
>>>>>3. Shredder 7.04 CLm1    5            25,00
>>>>>4. Fruit 2.2.1 Uri       5            23,00
>>>>>5. Shredder 8 CLD        3,5          17,25
>>>>>6. Fruit 2.2.1           3,5          16,50
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On AMD x2 dual core 4800+   T=15'+5" :
>>>>>
>>>>>1. Shredder 8 CLD        6,5 / 10
>>>>>2. Fruit 2.2.1 Uri       6
>>>>>3. Fruit 2.2.1 KS104     5            25,75
>>>>>4. Fruit 2.2.1           5            24,25
>>>>>5. Shredder 9 UCI        4,5
>>>>>6. Shredder 7.04 CLm1    3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The success of Shredder 8 CLD (UCI) on the dual core machine, confirms what the
>>>>>task manager indicated, i.e. which Shredder 8 CLD, in spite of it is
>>>>>single-threaded engine, used 99% of the two processors, while all the others
>>>>>used 50%, in other words, only one processor.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well both Shredder 7 and 8 were SMP capable. So you must edit engine parameters
>>>>and tell it to use only one thread.
>>>>
>>>>>(Native engines, as F8, J9, H9, CT15 etc...use 99% too.)
>>>>None of those in single versions are SMP capable so I would say on a dual that
>>>>is impossible.
>>>>
>>>>>Peter Kasinski thinks that Windows task manager is confused and carryforwards
>>>>>incorrectly.
>>>>
>>>>I have run every engine and observed task manager and it seems to switch all
>>>>correctly I've seen no odd behavior at all.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>The goal, it is rather than the engines use two processors instead of one!  But
>>>by editing the parameters, for example for Shredder, there is no possibility of
>>>choosing one or two processors to be used.
>>
>>Of course there is. Open the engine parameters and change threads from 2 to 1
>>it's there believe me I've done it.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Indeed, you are right with regard to Shredder, it exists the possibility of
>choosing the number of treads, but I do not see for the others engines. It may
>be, that the choice is done automatically.
>
>Gregory

It is neither. They are single processor engines not capable of SMP.

Sarah.



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