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Subject: Re: u2600 Club ICC Rating List -- Mar 15

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 01:46:06 03/17/99

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On March 16, 1999 at 17:51:47, Will Singleton wrote:

>
>On March 16, 1999 at 17:09:43, Andrew Williams wrote:
>

>>Hi Will,
>>
>>This is PostModernist's log file output at the time - as you can see, it
>>saw the move after 9 seconds, but this is with the benefit of the TT being
>>already stuffed.
>>
>>I've changed the eval somewhat since, but it still likes Bf5 at about depth
>>8 (11 secs).
>>
>>I also searched to d9 after the line you mention, and I get -2.9 for Black.
>>
>>
>>
>>Andrew Williams
>>
>>
>>--- Pondering (GWT=0), assuming move: f6 ---
>> 2=   128     0        47   Na4 Ng3 Bxg3 Bxg3 Nc5 Nd8 Rac1
>> 3=   128     0       137   Na4 Ng3 Bxg3 Bxg3 Nc5 Nd8 Rac1
>> 4=   128     0       227   Na4 Ng3 Bxg3 Bxg3 Nc5 Nd8 Rac1
>> 5=   128     0       317   Na4 Ng3 Bxg3 Bxg3 Nc5 Nd8 Rac1
>> 6=   128     0       407   Na4 Ng3 Bxg3 Bxg3 Nc5 Nd8 Rac1
>> 7=   137     3    125628   Na4 Bg3 Nb6 Rb8 Bc3 Qd6
>> 8b   158     9    431077   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qb8 Nb6 Rd8 Qf7
>> 8=   177    11    527141   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>>--- Pondering finished ---
>>
>>time 68000
>>otim 64400
>>
>>f7f6
>>
>>PONDERING MOVE RIGHT
>> 2=   150    15    719124   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>> 3=   151    15    719227   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>> 4=   152    15    720429   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>> 5=   152    15    722614   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>> 6=   155    16    733703   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>> 7=   150    16    766337   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>> 8=   156    18    864018   Bf5 exf5 Nxd5 Qd6 Qxb7 Rb8
>>NODES PER SECOND 45500
>
>
>Andrew,
>
>What eval terms do you think are most responsible for choosing Bf5?
>
At the time this version was playing I was worried that it was over-valuing
Pawns compared to minor pieces. So I think the fact that the Queen can
hoover up some Pawns is playing a part. But it's really very difficult to
tell. When I get home tonight, I'll set up the position at the end of the
PV and see what it thinks of the various pieces.

>I notice you handle pondering differently than I.  If my guess is correct, I
>just continue the search at that point.  You restart.  Any reason to restart the
>search?
>

No. It's a dumb idea and I can't really remember why I don't continue the
search from (completeddepth+1). I'll have to have a look at that at some
point.

Andrew





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