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Subject: Re: Dual Core G5

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 00:12:39 11/03/05

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On November 02, 2005 at 21:42:18, Hristo wrote:

>On November 02, 2005 at 16:19:03, John Dillard wrote:
>
>>On November 02, 2005 at 15:34:30, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>>
>>>http://www.apple.com/powermac/
>>>
>>>nice :) would make a good quad system.
>>>
>>>-Josh
>>
>>
>>They're making a quad system.  There's not other system on the market today,
>>super computer or otherwise, that can process as many gigaflops of info as the
>>dual core G5.  I just wonder if any of the chess programs will benefit from this
>>power?
>
>John,
>I love Apple computers. In fact I'm writing this on my favorite PB 17" (OS-X
>10.4.3). The other fact is that at work I use Opterons (three different
>systemsin my office, all of them dual CPU) and those systems are able to match
>or destroy (in some cases) the newer Macs (which we also have at work).
>The only time a Mac wins (against Intel ot AMD) is when you can fit your problem
>solution into Altivec and then spend some time optimizing it, which we have done
>in a few cases in the domain of signal analysis. Outside of the Altivec-unit the
>Macs are not going to win against AMD.
>Memory access latency is the killer for many apps, not the memory access
>throughput. In this sense most chess programs are limited by random access
>latencies and not be sheer throughput (as it is needed in video or signal
>processing). The dual-core G5s are not going to win the contest so easily
>against AMD in particular. (In fact I would pay extra to get OS-X run on an AMD
>processor)
>
>Anyway,
>enjoy your Mac for what it is, the best computer experience you can have today,
>and not for what it isn't the best chess playing computer in the world. If
>someone spent the time to translate (port) their chess algorithms to Altivec (if
>this is even possible) then your assumption _might_ have some merit. Until then,
>enjoy your computer and what you can do with it. :-)
>
>Regards,
>Hristo

Maybe the faster DDR2 533 memory of the new dual cores G5 system reduces the
memory access latency, who knows.

- Andy



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