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Subject: Re: I have been called a liar by Chess4You..Here is Proof I tell the truth

Author: Lanny DiBartolomeo

Date: 07:39:15 03/17/99

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On March 17, 1999 at 09:50:13, Roland Boehm wrote:

>Hi this is errol, admin of Chess4You. I want to respond to the allegations of
>Mr. Young which seem more and more strange to me:
>
>
>On March 16, 1999 at 17:47:24, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>
>>This is the message I sent the the head admin of Chess4You.. Begging for help
>>from this unfair action. I cut and past this message just now from their server.
>>I sent them this at the time this problem happend as seen from the timestamp on
>>the message. To prove that this is true, I give all of CCC permission to log
>>onto my Chess4You account and Type "Message OliB" You will see my message to
>>them asking for help and you will see I still have not got an answer to my
>>message asking for help from this unfair action
>>
>>My account name is 'DoomsDayMachine'
>>My password is 'eywa'
>
>This is a severe violation of the Chess4You agreement!
>Mr.Young as each other member of Chess4You or other ICS agreed to keep his
>password secret! And he is not allowed to give anyone permission to log onto his
>Chess4You account! It shows the attitude of Mr.Young towards our server rules.
>

under the circumstances he must have felt quite forced to do this so people
could see what he felt was proof of what went on and if he was lying he most
likely would not have given out his password (not saying that it couldnt be some
freak misunderstanding)Because it was an extreme to do this so in my opinion
something happened that he felt was unfair.





>>
>>Take a look before they clear my messages...or here is the message below......
>>
>>I also Post the last game I play on Chess4You, this is the game they resigned on
>>my at move 10!!! This can also be checked out at Chess4You.... It is the last
>>game I played and the last straw for me with this Server......
>>
>>[Event "ICS game"]
>>[Site "Chess4U.com"]
>>[Date "1999.03.16"]
>>[Round "-"]
>>[White "RedBaron"]
>>[Black "DoomsDayMachine"]
>>[Result "*"]
>>[TimeControl "-"]
>>
>>1. e4 e6 2. Nc3 d5 3. d4 Nf6 4. e5 Nfd7 5. f4 c5 6. Nf3 Nc6 7. Be3 cxd4 8.
>>Nxd4 Bb4 9. Qd2 O-O 10. Be2 Nxd4
>>*
>>
>>At this point my games was resinged by force by checkonedo the admin for
>>Chess4you....
>
>T h i s game was forfeited. Yes! And it was the right decision.
>O n e  lost game, no ban or anything else up to then.
>
>But now I ban you, not HIARCS 7, as the first member ever from playing on
>Chess4You because of severe violations of the server rules!
>

violations?? 1 violation isnt this true? giving out his password(which can be
changed immediately) and may i add that it is soley your choice on the
punishment be it a slap on the hand all the way up to total banishment like you
have done. I think to banish him like this for all to see is a real shame
on your part, it should've been done there, or email, not here! if he broughyt
up railing accusations after it was done in private then let the reason be
known.




>>
>>
>><Cut and paste from the Chess4You site>
>>Messages to OliB:
>>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:35 MET: Hello, Can you help me. Checkonedo
>>has said he is changing my rating and I can no longer play other computers on
>>this network. He will not talk to me or tell me why.
>>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:38 MET: Why is my rating being Changed. I
>>am on other chess networks and have never had this happen to me. Checkonedo says
>>my ratings are wrong, but a +200 to +300 rating over crafty programs is what I
>>have on other
>>\   chess playing sites like FICS, Chessnet, ICC. Can you help me, this is
>>unfair.
>>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:42 MET: And I can't understand why the
>>admin messages me this in a game, not to play anymore games and he is changing
>>my rating, then will not responed to my tells when I try to find out why he is
>>doing this. Thank you
>>\   for your help.
>>
>To see t h i s message would be more interesting!
>And it says : not to play anymore games and he is changing my rating!
>If this was the truth, would the rating have been raised or lowered???
>
>>You have no messages from OliB.
>>
>
>Cut and paste from the Chess4You site?
>In the messages box of your user list you see the messages you receive and not
>the messages you send. If you send a message to olib it looks like this in the
>terminal window:
>
>the following message was sent to olib
>  test
>
>Our Netlog protocol shows that Olib logged out on Saturday 13 at 23:34MET
>and logged in again at 01:12MET. He was not logged in at 00:34 or 00:45
>Logged in where three other admins which telled with you.
>
>>
>>As you seen I have still gotten no Help and now the owner of the server has the
>>nerve to come on this group a call me a liar.....
>
>I have never called you a liar.
>What I surely know is that you asked me if you are banned. And logged out
>immediately afterwards... So my answer could not reach you.
>But now I think I really cannot help you.
>
>All I can do is trust the
>>judgement of this group if I am spreading lies about Chess4You or just telling
>>what happend to me at this site. I tried to be as open as I can and all I can
>>say is Log onto my chess4you Account and See the message for yourself if you
>have doubts.
>
>I also trust on the judgement of this group and hope this inconvenient affair is
>settled soon. When I entered this group I was delighted of reading it is devoted
>to decent discussion.
>
>errol



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