Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 04:12:21 11/05/05
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On November 05, 2005 at 06:51:48, Christopher Conkie wrote:
>On November 05, 2005 at 02:15:56, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2005 at 18:26:55, Christopher Conkie wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2005 at 12:43:09, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]r1b1k1nr/ppp2ppp/n7/3pp3/N3q3/PK6/1PPP2PP/R1BQ1BNR b kq - bm Qxa4+ = draw
>>>>
>>>>Maybe incorrect (Hampe - Meitner 1872)?
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>{C25 Vienna: Hammpe-Meitner}1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Bc5 3.Na4
>>>
>>>I think you mean this game from 1870 and is a Vienna played in Vienna.
>>>
>>>1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Bc5 3.Na4 Bxf2+ 4.Kxf2 Qh4+ 5.Ke3 Qf4+ 6.Kd3 d5 7.Kc3 Qxe4 8.Kb3
>>>Na6 9.a3 Qxa4+ 10.Kxa4 Nc5+ 11.Kb4 a5+ 12.Kxc5 Ne7 13.Bb5+ Kd8 14.Bc6 b6+ 15.Kb5
>>>Nxc6 16.Kxc6 Bb7+ 17.Kb5 Ba6+ 1/2-1/2
>>>
>>>It is a very interesting game. Engines can't cope with this. I think that both
>>>Kb4 and Kb5 are draws as amazing as it seems.
>>>
>>>Very nice.
>>>
>>>Christopher
>>
>> Why not a readable PGN that can - including
>> the header - directly imported in a chess
>> program? BTW: An interesting game. I am goin
>> to have a deeper look in order to find out
>> if the queen sac was correct. And below the
>> "readable" PGN
>> Kurt
>>
>>[Event "Vienna"]
>>[Site "Vienna"]
>>[Date "1872.??.??"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Hampe"]
>>[Black "Meitner, P."]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[ECO "C25"]
>>[PlyCount "34"]
>>[EventDate "1872.??.??"]
>>
>>1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Bc5 3. Na4 Bxf2+ 4. Kxf2 Qh4+ 5. Ke3 Qf4+ 6. Kd3 d5 7. Kc3 Qxe4
>>8. Kb3 Na6 9. a3 Qxa4+ 10. Kxa4 Nc5+ 11. Kb4 a5+ 12. Kxc5 Ne7 13. Bb5+ Kd8 14.
>>Bc6 b6+ 15. Kb5 Nxc6 16. Kxc6 Bb7+ 17. Kb5 Ba6+ 1/2-1/2
>
>Hello Kurt,
>
>Yes....not intended to put just the game with no header. You have done it now so
>thanks.
>
>As for the position/game, this is from "The Complete Vienna" by Mikhail Tseitlin
>and Igor Glazkov (Batsford/Herny Holt) 1995......
>
>"After 3.Na4?!, Black's best is 3.....Be7! =; instead in Hamppe-Meitner, Black
>sacrificed his Bishop 3.....Bxf2+ 4. Kxf2 Qh4+ 5. Ke3 Qf4+ 6. Kd3 d5 and now, by
>continuing 7 Qe1! de+ 8. Kc3 e3 9. Kb3 Be6+ 10. Ka3 White could have repulsed
>the attack and kept the piece."
This was wrong:
7.Qe1 Nf6! is much better than 7...dxe4+ i.e. 8.g3 Qg4 9.Bh3 dxe4+ 10.Kc3 Nd5+
etc.
Michael
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