Author: William Penn
Date: 14:18:03 11/05/05
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On November 05, 2005 at 04:20:41, Tomas Casanovas Martinez wrote: > >Impressive Fruit 2.2.1!! > >Tourney: > >Fritz 9 - own book >Fruit 2.2.1 - own book >Deep Shredder 9.1 UCI -own book > >Junior 9 GUI > >40/40 + 40/40 + 40 > >Pentium IV, 3,00 Mhz. > >Standings after 39 out of 150 games: > > 1 2 3 >Fruit 2.2.1 ......... 9,5-3,5 9,0-4,0 18,5/26 >Fritz 9 3,5-9,5 ....... 7,5-5,5 11,0/26 >Deep Shredder 9,1 4,0-9,0 5,5-7,5 ....... 9,5/26 > >Some comments and feelings: > >- Until now, Deep Shredder 9.1 has never been beaten by any program in all my >previous tests. This time, this world champion program has problems to beat its >two very strong rivals. > >- Fruit 2.2.1 seems to get advantage from an exceptional end-game playing >strength... against two very strong end-game players!. > >- I do no expect that Fruit can increase or even maintain this enormous >performance (71%) in the overall tourney. My guess now is that the tourney (150 >games) will end around: > >Fruit 2.2.1 65/100 >Fritz 9 45/100 >Deep Shredder 9.1 40/100 > >Do you dare to forecast?. ;-) > >Regards, > >Tom. Thanks. Yes, this is an interesting tournament and I'll look forward to the complete results. I'm starting to recognize that Fruit is a top engine now, maybe the best, after using the Shredder 7-8-9 versions almost exclusively for the last few years. Now I must seriously look at Fruit. I don't know about Fritz 9 yet. I ran a quickie match between Fruit 2.2.1 and Shredder 9.1 and they are still almost neck & neck after 100 games: www.johnnybob.com/fsmatch.htm I may not play any more games in that match. It has already told me what I wanted to know, that Fruit is a serious competitor now. Shredder came on strong right at the end to almost catch up, possibly because of its learning ability(?). I leveled the field somewhat by using the Shredder 9 book for both, because I wanted to compare the calculating abilities mostly, not opening book strengths. You mention endgame strength, and in my opinion the Shredder engines (7-8-9) are not good endgame players. I think the equivalent Fritz and some other engines are better in the endgame. The Shredder 9 version has improved tablebase access greatly, and it's the best, but still I consider it stupid when the endgame approaches. I often have to experiment with other engines to find the best endgame lines. From what I've seen so far, Fruit has better native endgame savvy. WP
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