Author: Chuck
Date: 18:39:48 11/05/05
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On November 05, 2005 at 13:16:31, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 05, 2005 at 13:11:38, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On November 05, 2005 at 12:06:56, Steve B wrote: >> >>>For the second game RF has the White pieces >>>in the game RR is out of book on move 9 >>> >>>Game TWO...DRAWN >>> >>> >>> >>>[Date "2005.11.5"] >>>[Round "2"] >>>[White "Res-FRUIT 05"] >>>[Black "Res-Ruffian 2.1"] >>>[TimeControl "Game 60MIN-"] >>>[Result "1/2-1/2"] >>> >>>1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Nf3 Ngf6 6.Bg5 Be7 >>>7.Nxf6+ Bxf6 8.h4 c5 9.Qd2 O-O 10.O-O-O cxd4 11.Nxd4 h6 12.Bxf6 Nxf6 >>>13.Qe3 Qa5 14.Kb1 Rd8 15.Be2 Bd7 16.Bf3 Nd5 17.Qe1 Qc7 18.Bxd5 exd5 >>> >>>[D] r2r2k1/ppqb1pp1/7p/3p4/3N3P/8/PPP2PP1/1K1RQ2R w - - 0 19 >>> >>>we pass into the middle game with the RR having an isolated Q pawn already >>>blockaded by the White Knight >>>however the Black Bishop might be able to protect it >>>can the RF make any headway ? >>> >>>19.Qe3 Re8 20.Qb3 Bc6 21.Qc3 Qe5 22.Rhe1 Qf6 23.f3 Rxe1 24.Rxe1 Re8 >>>25.Rxe8+ Bxe8 26.g3 Qe5 27.g4 Bd7 28.b3 b6 29.Qd2 a5 >>>30.h5 Kf8 31.Kb2 f6 32.a4 Qd6 33.Qd3 Qb4 34.Ne2 Be6 35.Qa6 Qc5 36.Qa8+ >>>Kf7 37.Qa7+ Kf8 38.Nc3 Kg8 39.Qb8+ Kh7 40.Qe8 Bg8 >>> >>> >>>[D] 4Q1b1/6pk/1p3p1p/p1qp3P/P5P1/1PN2P2/1KP5/8 w - - 0 41 >>> >>>for the past several moves RR has been showing a PV of +0.00 >>>while the RF has been showing +.70 >>> >>>i think if the RR had a voice feature it would be offering a draw in an >>>increasingly louder and louder annoyed voice >>> >>>regardless i let play continue.. >>> >>>41.Nb5 Kh8 42.Qe2 Bf7 43.c3 Kg8 44.Kc2 f5 45.Kb2 fxg4 >>>46.fxg4 Qc6 47.Nd4 Qd6 48.Qc2..1/2-1/2 >>> >>> >>>FINAL POSITION >>> >>>[D] 6k1/5bp1/1p1q3p/p2p3P/P2N2P1/1PP5/1KQ5/8 b - - 0 48 >>> >>>even i have seen enough >>>the RR continues to show +0.00 with the RF now down to +.32 >>>i think the game is a dead draw and both computers had ample time on the clock >>> >>>perhaps there is a chance for the RR??? >>> >>>Match Score-RF05 1.5 >>> RR 0.5 >>> >>>Hmmmmm Regards >>>Steve >> >>I do not agree that it is a dead draw even if it is a draw with correct play. >>It is probably a draw but programs may do mistakes so I consider the game as >>unfinished. >> >>Uri > >I can add that I clearly can imagine programs trade pieces and not draw the >relevant position. > >Here is a possible line > >[Event "?"] >[Site "?"] >[Date "????.??.??"] >[Round "?"] >[White "New game"] >[Black "?"] >[Result "*"] >[SetUp "1"] >[FEN "6k1/5bp1/1p1q3p/p2p3P/P2N2P1/1PP5/1KQ5/8 b - - 0 1"] >[PlyCount "18"] > >1... Be8 2. Nf5 Qf4 3. Qe2 Kh7 4. Qd3 Qxg4 5. Nd6+ Kg8 6. Nxe8 Qxh5 7. Qe3 Kf8 >8. Qxb6 Qe2+ 9. Ka3 Qxe8 10. Qxa5 * Easy for one to imagine but the difficult part in these positions tends to be the part about the computer finding a way to win, usually programs are pretty good at the holding on part. Cheers, Chuck
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