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Subject: Re: 1. Rg3! and Fritz 9

Author: allan johnson

Date: 19:10:21 11/06/05

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On November 06, 2005 at 21:18:21, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>If you take a look at this position you can see that Fritz 9 needs a decent
>chunk of time to find the simple Rg3! It spends a lot of time on the simple pawn
>to g4 and only after about 80 seconds (FX-53) switches to Rg3, eventually
>announcing a mate in 23:
>
>[D] r6r/p2Q2pp/6k1/2P1pp2/1Pb5/R7/6PP/6K1 w - - 0 29
>
>
>It is interesting to note that Fritz 9 learns successfully, even though its
>positional learning is all done in the RAM and gets cleared the moment you exit
>Fritz.  In a repeated try while I was still in the program, Fritz targeted Rg3!
>right away never changing the winning line.
>
>
>Djordje
.
Shredder 8 - ,A, [Analysis by Junior package download at Chessbase. Not
Junior9!]Al
r6r/p2Q2pp/6k1/2P1pp2/1Pb5/R7/6PP/6K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Shredder 8:

1.Rxa7 Rxa7 2.Qxa7
  +-  (1.99)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Rxa7 Rxa7 2.Qxa7
  +-  (1.99)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Kf2
  +-  (2.55)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Kf2
  +-  (2.55)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kh5
  +-  (2.56)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kh6
  +-  (3.18)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Rxg7
  +-  (3.18)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qd6+ Be6 2.Qxe6+ Kg5
  +-  (4.07)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qd6+ Kg5 2.Qxe5
  +-  (4.07)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
1.Qd6+ Kg5 2.Qxe5
  +-  (4.07)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
1.Qd6+ Kh5 2.Rh3+ Kg5 3.Qxe5
  +-  (4.02)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Ke7
  +-  (4.20)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd6+ Ke4 5.Qc6+ Bd5
  +-  (4.29)   Depth: 3/14   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd6+ Ke4 5.Qc6+ Bd5
  +-  (4.29)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd6+ Ke4 5.Kf2
  +-  (4.53)   Depth: 5/20   00:00:00
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd6+ Ke4 5.Kf2 Rad8
  +-  (4.47)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00
1.g4 Kf6 2.Qxf5+ Ke7
  +-  (4.48)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00
1.g4 Rhf8 2.gxf5+ Kf6 3.Qd6+ Kf7 4.Qxe5 Kg8
  +-  (4.56)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00
1.Rc3 Kg5 2.Rxc4 Rhc8
  +-  (4.57)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00
1.Rc3 Bd5 2.Qxd5 Rhe8
  +-  (4.92)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Qb7+ Kf6 4.Rxc4 e4
  +-  (5.37)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00
1.Rc3 Rad8 2.Qc6+ Kg5 3.h4+ Kxh4 4.Rxc4+ e4 5.Qe6 g6
  +-  (5.49)   Depth: 7/20   00:00:00  130kN
1.Rc3 Rad8 2.Qc6+ Kg5 3.h4+ Kxh4 4.Rxc4+ Kg5 5.Qb7 a5
  +-  (5.74)   Depth: 8/20   00:00:00  223kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Qb7+ Kf6 4.Rxc4 a5 5.Qb6+ Kf7 6.bxa5
  +-  (6.05)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  258kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Rxc4 Rab8 4.Qc7+ Kf6 5.Kf2 Re8 6.Qxe5+ Kxe5
  +-  (5.99)   Depth: 9/26   00:00:01  508kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Qb7+ Kf6 4.Rxc4 Kg6 5.Kf2 Rac8
  +-  (6.24)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:03  1006kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Qb7+ Kf6 4.Rxc4 Re8 5.Qa6+ Re6 6.Qxa7 Rxa7
  +-  (6.24)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:03  1028kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Qb7+ Kf6 4.Rxc4 Re8 5.Qc6+ Kg5 6.h4+ Kh5 7.g4+ fxg4
8.Qe4 Rec8
  +-  (6.24)   Depth: 11/30   00:00:05  1860kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kh5 3.Rxc4 Rd1+ 4.Kf2 Rad8 5.Qf3+ Kg6 6.Rc2 R8d2+ 7.Rxd2 Rxd2+
8.Ke1 Rd4 9.Qa8 Rxb4 10.Qxa7
  +-  (6.32)   Depth: 12/34   00:00:12  4018kN
1.Rc3 Rhd8 2.Qc6+ Kf7 3.Qb7+ Kg8 4.Rxc4 a5 5.Qc6 axb4 6.Qe6+ Kh8 7.Rxb4 e4
8.Qxe4
  +-  (6.28)   Depth: 13/37   00:00:22  7916kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Bd5
  +-  (6.29)   Depth: 13/42   00:00:37  13266kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Be6 7.Qxe5+ Kxc6
8.Qxe6+ Kb5
  +-  (6.64)   Depth: 13/42   00:00:37  13314kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Ka4 7.Qc5 a5 8.bxa5
Bb3 9.Qxe5
  +-  (7.09)   Depth: 13/42   00:00:40  14514kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Ka4 7.Qc5 a5 8.bxa5
Rxa5 9.Qxc4#
  +-  (7.34)   Depth: 14/38   00:00:46  16804kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Ka4 7.Qc5 a5 8.bxa5
Be6 9.Ra3#
  +-  (7.84)   Depth: 14/40   00:00:47  17132kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Ka4 7.Qc5 a5 8.bxa5
Bd3 9.Kf2
  +-  (7.84)   Depth: 14/42   00:00:53  19374kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Ka4 7.Qc5 a5 8.bxa5
Bb3 9.Kf2 Rxa5 10.Rxb3
  +-  (7.59)   Depth: 15/45   00:01:28  32784kN
1.Rg3+ Kf6 2.Qxg7+ Ke6 3.Qh6+ Kd5 4.Qd2+ Kc6 5.Qd6+ Kb5 6.c6 Ka4 7.Qc5 a5 8.bxa5
Rhe8
  +-  (7.59)   Depth: 15/45   00:01:30  33386kN




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