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Subject: Re: Is it correct that the ssdf is against testing humans in the list?

Author: Günther Simon

Date: 02:21:17 11/07/05

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On November 07, 2005 at 05:17:37, Günther Simon wrote:

>On November 06, 2005 at 16:43:46, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 06, 2005 at 16:19:26, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>
>>>On November 06, 2005 at 15:49:45, Günther Simon wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 06, 2005 at 09:39:43, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 06, 2005 at 00:44:59, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>There was a claim in another discussion that the ssdf is in principle against
>>>>>>testing humans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The claim was not by ssdf tester and if it is correct I want to read it from
>>>>>>ssdf testers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I always thought that the problem is that humans are not available for playing
>>>>>>matches of 40 games against Fruit and Fritz and other programs and paying humans
>>>>>>money and checking that the humans do not cheat is too expensive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I always thought that ssdf is going to include humans in the list in case that
>>>>>>there is a sponsor to pay for that purpose.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>The idea has always been to compare programs against humans in tournaments.
>>>>>Especially in the past days a good player could learn to play the same lines
>>>>>over and over winning the same game again and again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bertil
>>>>
>>>>Is this a 'yes' or a 'no' to Uris question?
>>>>
>>>>Guenther
>>>
>>>Yes, in the best of worlds a lot of humans could be included to give a "true"
>>>rating comparison.
>>>
>>>Bertil
>>
>>It is clear that it is 'yes' to what I thought but not 'yes' to the question in
>>the title of the thread.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I see only one question in your original post and that is in the header
>marked by a question mark.
>I have asked for an answer to your question and Bertil said 'yes',
>thus I don't see any doubts left, except you believe either Bertil
>missunderstod you or did not say the truth.
>
>Guenther

Oh sorry, I understand now what you mean, a yes would mean that
'it _is_ correct that the SSDF is against testing humans in the list' ;)

Guenther



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