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Subject: Re: Toga II 1.0 is not very weaker than Fruit 2.2.1 !

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 02:35:45 11/07/05

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On November 07, 2005 at 05:10:30, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 07, 2005 at 02:04:43, Graham Banks wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2005 at 02:01:03, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>On November 07, 2005 at 01:53:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>      Hi Eduard
>>>>      After more than 2000 games, Toga II 1.0
>>>>      seems 42 Elo weaker than Fruit 2.2.1
>>>>      http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rangliste.html
>>>>      Why do you have any doubts about this fact?
>>>>      You can't conclude something on the basis of
>>>>      some (dumb) blitz games on Playchess.com
>>>>      Regards
>>>>      Kurt
>>>
>>>1. For me gives LIVE games with tuned books more informations about the Strength
>>>of both engines, clear more than matches with only 5 move-book maches or another
>>>short openings like Nunn-Test etc..
>>>
>>>2. on playchess will played with permanent brain on very fast computers! That is
>>>for me an very important point!
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>Eduard.
>>>
>>>Btw, see my message about the comming of new Toga II 1.1 thios Year with a Multi
>>>Variation Mode.
>>>
>>>Cool.
>>
>>
>>Hi Eduard,
>>
>>Playchess.com is more about who has the best hardware rather than which engine
>>is strongest,
>>
>>Graham.
>
>I think that it is about who have the best combination of software and hardware.
>
>The main problem is that engines that are tested today are almost the same
>strength and there is no big difference between fruit2.2.1 and TogaII 1.0
>
>30 elo in blitz based on CEGT is not a big difference and hardware that is twice
>faster is clearly more important
>
>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/eloblitz.html
>
>Uri

Hello Uri!

You have played corr. Chess very powerfull, my congrats.

Today people says that Hydra is the best Program of the World.

I am here not sure!

Example:

Let runs Fritz 9, 7 days (!) in analysis mode on a hard position.
Let run Fruit, 7 days (!) in analysis mode on a hard position.
Let run HYDRA, 7 days (!) in analysis mode on a hard position.

Which programm will be the best?

I am not sure.

You see: Words like "The best Program" are very relative - Hardware too.

Or not?

Best,
Eduard.





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