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Subject: Re: Toga II 1.0 is not very weaker than Fruit 2.2.1 !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:13:40 11/07/05

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On November 07, 2005 at 05:35:45, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>On November 07, 2005 at 05:10:30, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2005 at 02:04:43, Graham Banks wrote:
>>
>>>On November 07, 2005 at 02:01:03, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 07, 2005 at 01:53:16, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>      Hi Eduard
>>>>>      After more than 2000 games, Toga II 1.0
>>>>>      seems 42 Elo weaker than Fruit 2.2.1
>>>>>      http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/rangliste.html
>>>>>      Why do you have any doubts about this fact?
>>>>>      You can't conclude something on the basis of
>>>>>      some (dumb) blitz games on Playchess.com
>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>      Kurt
>>>>
>>>>1. For me gives LIVE games with tuned books more informations about the Strength
>>>>of both engines, clear more than matches with only 5 move-book maches or another
>>>>short openings like Nunn-Test etc..
>>>>
>>>>2. on playchess will played with permanent brain on very fast computers! That is
>>>>for me an very important point!
>>>>
>>>>Best,
>>>>Eduard.
>>>>
>>>>Btw, see my message about the comming of new Toga II 1.1 thios Year with a Multi
>>>>Variation Mode.
>>>>
>>>>Cool.
>>>
>>>
>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>
>>>Playchess.com is more about who has the best hardware rather than which engine
>>>is strongest,
>>>
>>>Graham.
>>
>>I think that it is about who have the best combination of software and hardware.
>>
>>The main problem is that engines that are tested today are almost the same
>>strength and there is no big difference between fruit2.2.1 and TogaII 1.0
>>
>>30 elo in blitz based on CEGT is not a big difference and hardware that is twice
>>faster is clearly more important
>>
>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/eloblitz.html
>>
>>Uri
>
>Hello Uri!
>
>You have played corr. Chess very powerfull, my congrats.
>
>Today people says that Hydra is the best Program of the World.

I do not think hydra is a program.
Hydra is an hardware that plays chess.

I also do not think that it is the best but
Hydra is not available not for me and not for my opponents so it is not
relevant.

Uri



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