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Subject: Re: - + 5.0. Fritz 9 ++/-- !?.... Does it has any explanation ?

Author: Pablo Ignacio Restrepo

Date: 04:09:17 11/09/05

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Sune.

Thx for the evaluation.  For me is really strange that in the year 2005,
computers dont understand this position.
Best,
Pablo


On November 09, 2005 at 03:42:51, Sune Larsson wrote:

>On November 08, 2005 at 22:14:05, Pablo Ignacio Restrepo wrote:
>
>>Hello.
>>Any explanation ?
>>Thx
>>Father
>
>
> You ask why Fritz9 evaluates the position as +5.0. I think the main reason
> is simple - being an exchange+pawn up.
>
> /S
>
>
>
>
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>>
>>[D]2r3k1/6pp/1p1bp2r/2pp1p2/p2P1P2/P1P1PNn1/RP1B2qP/6KR w - - 0 28
>>
>>
>>[Event "Partida evaluada, 3m + 0s"]
>>[Site "Sala de máquinas"]
>>[Date "2005.11.08"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Father"]
>>[Black "RoMeO_MuSt_DiE"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "A45"]
>>[WhiteElo "1891"]
>>[BlackElo "2766"]
>>[Annotator "Restrepo,Pablo"]
>>[PlyCount "299"]
>>[EventDate "2005.09.04"]
>>[TimeControl "180"]
>>
>>[D]8/2r2kpp/1p1bp1r1/2pp1p2/p2P1P2/P1P1PNR1/1P1B3P/7K b - - 0 32
>>
>>
>>
>>1. d4 {1} Nf6 {0} 2. e3 {(c4) 0} d5 {0} 3. c3 {(Nf3) 0} Bf5 {0} 4. Bd3 {(Nf3) 0
>>} Bxd3 {0} 5. Qxd3 {0} Nbd7 {0} 6. f4 {0} c5 {0} 7. Nf3 {1} e6 {0} 8. O-O {1}
>>Bd6 {0} 9. g3 {1} O-O {0} 10. Re1 {0} Ne4 {0} 11. Nbd2 {1} Ndf6 {-1.17/10 4}
>>12. Qe2 {(b3) 1} Rc8 {-1.43/9 4} 13. Nxe4 {(Rf1) 0} Nxe4 {5} 14. Nd2 {
>>(Rf1) -1.51/11 0} f5 {-1.39/11 5} 15. Nf3 {(Nxe4) 1} Qe8 {-1.69/10 5} 16. Bd2 {
>>(Ne5) 0} Qh5 {-1.60/9 3} 17. a3 {(b3) 1} b6 {-1.67/9 6} 18. Ra2 {(Ne5) 1} Qg6 {
>>-1.79/9 8} 19. Rea1 {(b3) 2} a5 {-1.91/9 6} 20. Be1 {(b3) 1} a4 {-1.94/9 4} 21.
>>Nd2 {(Ne5) 2} Qe8 {-2.21/9 3} 22. Nf3 {(Rb1) 1} Rf6 {-2.06/10 9} 23. Bd2 {
>>(Rb1) 3} Rh6 {-2.17/9 4} 24. Kg2 {(Rf1) 2} Qh5 {-2.76/9 4} 25. Rh1 {(Rd1) 19}
>>Qh3+ {-4.53/11 6} 26. Kg1 {5} Nxg3 {-4.52/11 0} 27. Qg2 {5} Qxg2+ {-4.50/12 0}
>>28. Kxg2 {2} Nxh1 {-4.40/12 0} 29. Kxh1 {(Ra1) 1} Rc7 {-4.38/11 3} 30. Ra1 {1}
>>Kf7 {-4.19/11 5} 31. Rg1 {(dxc5) 1} Rg6 {-4.34/11 2} 32. Rg3 {(Rb1) 3} Rxg3 {3}
>>33. hxg3 {-4.83/11 0} h5 {-4.98/11 3} 34. Kg2 {(c4) 1} Be7 {-4.96/11 3} 35. Be1
>>{(dxc5) 1} Ke8 {-4.93/11 2} 36. Kh3 {(Bf2) 1} Bf6 {-4.94/11 2} 37. Kg2 {1} Kd7
>>{-4.93/11 1} 38. Kf2 {(Ne5+) 1} Be7 {-4.87/10 2} 39. Ke2 {(Ne5+) 0} Kd8 {
>>-4.82/11 3} 40. Kd3 {(Ne5) 0} Bf6 {-4.73/11 3} 41. Ke2 {(Kc2) 1} Ke8 {
>>-4.85/11 2} 42. Kd3 {(Bf2) 0} c4+ {-5.00/12 3} 43. Ke2 {(Kc2) 3} Ra7 {
>>-4.92/13 2} 44. Bd2 {5} Ra5 {-5.01/15 0} 45. Bc1 {1} Rb5 {-5.00/14 1} 46. Kf2 {
>>(Kd2) 1} Be7 {-4.98/14 2} 47. Kg2 {(Ke2) 0} Kd7 {-5.00/13 2} 48. Kh3 {(Ne5+) 0}
>>Bf6 {-4.98/13 1} 49. Kg2 {2} Kd6 {-4.98/14 0} 50. Kh3 {(Ne5) 0} Kc6 {-4.97/14 2
>>} 51. Kh2 {(Ne5+) 1} Be7 {-4.96/14 3} 52. Kh3 {(Ne5+) 0} Kc7 {-4.98/14 3} 53.
>>Kh2 {(Kg2) 1} Bf6 {-4.96/13 1} 54. Kh3 {(Kg2) 1} Kd8 {-4.96/14 1} 55. Kh2 {
>>(Kg2) 0} Ke7 {-4.96/13 1} 56. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Ke8 {-4.95/14 2} 57. Kh2 {0} Kf7 {
>>-4.96/13 0} 58. Kh3 {(Ne5+) 0} Be7 {-4.96/14 2} 59. Kh2 {0} Kf8 {-4.96/13 0}
>>60. Kh3 {(Kg2) 1} Bf6 {-4.96/13 1} 61. Kh2 {(Ne5) 0} Kg8 {-4.87/13 1} 62. Kh3 {
>>(Kg2) 0} Be7 {-4.89/14 2} 63. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Kf7 {-4.92/12 1} 64. Kh3 {0} Kf6 {
>>-4.92/13 0} 65. Kh2 {(Ne5) 0} Kg6 {-4.92/12 1} 66. Kh3 {(Ne5+) 0} Kh7 {
>>-4.89/13 1} 67. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} g6 {-4.86/13 1} 68. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Kh6 {-4.87/13 1
>>} 69. Kh2 {(Ne5) 0} Kg7 {-4.85/13 1} 70. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Bf6 {-4.85/13 1} 71. Kh2
>>{1} Kf7 {-4.84/13 0} 72. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Be7 {-4.88/13 1} 73. Kh2 {(Kg2) 1} Kf6 {
>>-4.82/13 1} 74. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Bf8 {-4.87/13 1} 75. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Bd6 {
>>-4.80/13 1} 76. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Ke7 {-4.80/13 1} 77. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Kf7 {
>>-4.79/13 1} 78. Kh3 {(Nd2) 0} Kf8 {-4.76/13 1} 79. Kh2 {(Ng5) 0} Be7 {
>>-4.83/13 1} 80. Kh3 {0} Bf6 {-4.90/13 0} 81. Kh2 {(Nh4) 1} Ke8 {-4.80/12 1} 82.
>>Kh3 {0} Ra5 {-4.74/12 0} 83. Kh2 {(Ne5) 0} Ke7 {-4.82/12 1} 84. Kh3 {(Nh4) 1}
>>Ra8 {-4.90/11 1} 85. Kg2 {1} Rg8 {-4.83/12 0} 86. Bd2 {(Ne5) 3} Kd7 {-4.80/12 1
>>} 87. Be1 {(Ne5+) 1} Kc6 {-4.89/11 1} 88. Kh2 {(Bd2) 1} Kd6 {-4.86/11 0} 89.
>>Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Rg7 {-4.80/11 1} 90. Kh2 {(Ne5) 0} Kc6 {-4.89/11 0} 91. Kh3 {
>>(Bd2) 1} Kb5 {-4.86/11 1} 92. Kh2 {3} Ka6 {-4.81/14 0} 93. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Be7 {
>>-4.84/10 0} 94. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Kb7 {-4.85/12 1} 95. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kc7 {
>>-4.87/11 0} 96. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kc8 {-4.82/11 1} 97. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kd8 {
>>-4.84/11 0} 98. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Ke8 {-4.83/12 1} 99. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kd7 {
>>-4.87/11 0} 100. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kc6 {-4.84/11 1} 101. Kh3 {(Ne5+) 0} Bf6 {
>>-4.82/10 0} 102. Kh2 {0} Bd8 {-4.93/12 0} 103. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kd6 {-4.83/9 0}
>>104. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0} Be7 {-4.81/12 1} 105. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kc6 {-4.83/11 0} 106.
>>Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kb5 {-4.85/11 0} 107. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Rg8 {-4.79/12 1} 108. Kh2 {
>>(Ne5) 0} Kc6 {-4.85/10 0} 109. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kc7 {-4.83/10 0} 110. Kh2 {(Kg2) 0
>>} Kb7 {-4.83/9 0} 111. Kh3 {0} Ka6 {-4.82/12 0} 112. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Bf6 {
>>-4.79/10 1} 113. Kh3 {(Ne5) 0} Kb7 {-4.80/10 0} 114. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} b5 {
>>-4.79/10 0} 115. Kh3 {(Bd2) 1} Kc8 {-4.82/10 0} 116. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kc7 {
>>-4.79/11 0} 117. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kd6 {-4.80/10 0} 118. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Ke7 {
>>-4.79/11 0} 119. Kh3 {(Ne5) 0} Kd7 {-4.77/10 0} 120. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kc6 {
>>-4.75/10 0} 121. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Rg7 {-4.80/10 0} 122. Kh2 {(Bd2) 1} Be7 {
>>-4.78/11 0} 123. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kd7 {-4.79/10 0} 124. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Rg8 {
>>-4.77/10 0} 125. Kh3 {(Ne5+) 0} Kc6 {-4.78/10 0} 126. Kh2 {0} Kb6 {-4.77/12 0}
>>127. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Rg7 {-4.79/10 0} 128. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kc7 {-4.81/11 0} 129.
>>Kh3 {(Ne5) 0} Bf6 {-4.81/11 0} 130. Kh2 {(Ne5) 0} Kc8 {-4.81/11 0} 131. Kh3 {
>>(Bd2) 0} Kb7 {-4.81/11 0} 132. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Be7 {-4.80/11 0} 133. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0
>>} Kc8 {-4.82/10 0} 134. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kd8 {-4.79/10 0} 135. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Ke8 {
>>-4.77/11 0} 136. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kd7 {-4.79/11 0} 137. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kc7 {
>>-4.80/10 0} 138. Kh2 {0} Kd6 {-4.75/12 0} 139. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Bf6 {-4.76/11 0}
>>140. Kh2 {0} Kc7 {-4.79/12 0} 141. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Rg8 {-4.78/10 0} 142. Kh2 {
>>(Bd2) 0} Be7 {-4.76/10 0} 143. Kh3 {(Ne5) 0} Kd8 {-4.77/10 0} 144. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0
>>} Ke8 {-4.78/11 0} 145. Kh3 {(Kg2) 0} Bf6 {-4.76/12 0} 146. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Kd8 {
>>-4.78/11 0} 147. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Ke7 {-4.76/11 0} 148. Kh2 {(Bd2) 0} Rg7 {
>>-4.77/10 0} 149. Kh3 {(Bd2) 0} Kf7 {-4.73/10 0} 150. Kh2 {
>>(Bd2) Time  (Lag: Av=0.77s, max=10.6s) 0} 1-0
>>
>>[D]8/5kr1/4pbp1/1p1p1p1p/p1pP1P2/P1P1PNP1/1P5K/4B3 b - - 0 150



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