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Subject: alll wrong... (n/t just German response)

Author: Günther Simon

Date: 05:48:27 11/09/05

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On November 09, 2005 at 08:24:11, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>English with translator help:
>
>Ask for the commercialization of chess programs?
>
>Under this message in the CCC, wanted I mean thoughts in English to state, but I
>fear that me that badly succeeded.
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?460604
>
>therefore I try it on German here, which means it in addition?
>
>First a programmer comes and releases his source code to all. Afterwards another
>programmer gets an idea and implements her into the already available code, and
>gives to its engine his own name, however so that everyone it becomes clear that
>the new engine is based on the source code of the other program.
>
>Spurred of now somewhat the newer engine version, the original programmer
>provides a new engine and takes over some ideas of the other author. Thus goes
>several times! Then, after the original engine became very strong, also by the
>ideas of the other programmer, the first programmer comes on the idea, its
>superstrong engine now to marked out.
>
>Is that the new way of programming?
>
>In my opinion the 1 would have. Programmers the way of the commercialization to
>never go may, if he made already his program publicly accessible for everyone!
>It more either with the open code to remain would have had, or however, if it
>goes now a commercial way, then should one the rights to take away, whereafter
>different programmers seize the older open code now (by right), their now
>completely own new ideas now any longer to abandon not to have!
>
>Because where are we?
>
>In the future possibly someone takes the code, develops its own ingenious idea,
>must these however unfortunately openly put, while the origin author possesses
>all liberties to be allowed to implement also these new ideas into his already
>commercial program!  I find that a bad style!  If I decide me to make my program
>accessible for others then I must proceed also in the future further in such a
>way, if I am the ideas of others, and it only STIMULUS to new acts, seize!  If I
>become however commercial, which also my good right is, then however also the
>other programmers, who build on the original open code, should get likewise the
>liberty, even the right!,  to have not to put their ideas any longer openly.
>
>Because where are we?
>
>If an idea has which it everything first does not withhold, later however
>nevertheless, then also all different one the same possibility should be given!
>Alone, is a certain use of other persons for own purposes is fair to everything
>else only.  What there wrong do I see? EN.
>
>---------
>
>Here is my original german text, for full understanding (Translate is good but
>difficult):
>
>Frage zur Kommerzialisierung von Schachprogrammen?
>
>Unter dieser message im CCC, wollte ich meine Gedanken in englisch darlegen,
>aber ich befürchte dass mir das schlecht gelungen ist.
>
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?460604
>
>Daher versuche ich es auf deutsch hier, was meint ihr dazu?
>
>Zuerst kommt ein Programmierer und gibt seinen Quellcode allen frei. Danach
>bekommt ein anderer Programmierer eine Idee und implementiert sie in den schon
>verfügbaren Code, und gibt seiner Engine einen eigenen Namen, jedoch so dass
>jedem klar wird, dass die neue Engine auf den Quellcode des anderen Programms
>basiert.
>
>Angespornt von der nun etwas neueren Engine-Fassung, erstellt der ursprüngliche
>Programmierer eine neue Engine und übernimmt einige Ideen des anderen Autors.

Exakt umgekehrt, gähn... Fabien war nie auf 'Ideen' des Toga Autors
angewiesen, er hatte nur keine Zeit alles in Fruit zu implementieren,
was er wollte/konnte.
Nach jeder stärkeren freien Fruit Version war es der _Toga Autor_, der plötzlich
auf einer neueren Fruit-Version aufsetzte, rate mal warum...

Besser frag mal Thomas dem Du hier einen Bärendienst mit
Deinen Geschichtsverfälschungen erweist.

Alles weitere ist natürlich darauf basierender Blödsinn...

Guenther



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