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Subject: Re: Testing Deep Shredder 9 Columubus' egg 9L!

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 22:35:47 11/09/05

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On November 09, 2005 at 15:32:08, Enam wrote:

>On November 08, 2005 at 13:19:26, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2005 at 02:22:37, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On November 08, 2005 at 02:01:56, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 08, 2005 at 01:39:25, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 07, 2005 at 13:32:29, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I think I have improved Columbus' egg 9g with the latest 9L (Lyon) version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am testing it against "Fritz friend" (Fritz 9) at 90 minutes game on 2 equal
>>>>>>AMD XP 3000+, so similar to SSDF on A1200
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Columbus' egg 9L + Shrddr10.bkt prc (preliminary c version) - Fritz 9 =  7 - 4
>>>>>>(+5, =4, -2) 63.6% TP = +97 Elo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>P.N.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. Shredder10 prc is in std. mode, so not the strongest mode!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>2. The improvements on Columbus' egg 9L are mainly strategical in the first
>>>>>>part/middle game as the new settings are more refined.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If this version will score very well after several games I will post the
>>>>>>settings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ciao
>>>>>>Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>>      Hi Sandro
>>>>>      You are very courageous to conclude something
>>>>>      out of 11 games only. In our Fruit 2.2.1 test
>>>>>      Fritz 9 lost in the first 10 games with 2,0-8,0
>>>>>      but was almost equal after 50 games. In my
>>>>>      Nunn2 match, Fritz 9 won the first serie vs
>>>>>      Fruit 2.2.1 with 8,0-2,0 only to loose the
>>>>>      second serie with 3,0-7,0 and from such experience
>>>>>      I can't take matches under 50 games seriously. A
>>>>>      further good examply of how things can go/vary
>>>>>      to be seen at my comments re our RK 2004 tournament
>>>>>      http://www.utzingerk.com/rk_2004_english.htm
>>>>>      Regards
>>>>>      Kurt
>>>>
>>>>Hi Kurt,
>>>>
>>>>sorry but I said "I think", not I am sure. So you cannot say that I concluded
>>>>something, however I made several tests before starting the match looking this
>>>>setting on several positions, so I was not relying on this score, but on a
>>>>overall judgement.
>>>>
>>>>Just for your info the score now is:
>>>>
>>>>Columbus' egg 9L + SH10-prc (std mode) - Fritz 9 = 11.5 - 5.5 (+8, =7, -2) 67.7%
>>>>TP = +128 Elo
>>>>
>>>>P.N. I am not saying this version with the improved book is +128 Elo points
>>>>stronger, but just reporting what is written in the top row of the interface so
>>>>far.
>>>>
>>>>Ciao
>>>>Sandro
>>>
>>>
>>>      Hi Sandro
>>>      Thanks for your additional information
>>>      BTW: Have you seen that in our Shredder 9
>>>      test we have already played 1,300 games
>>>      at time control 40'/40
>>>      http://www.utzingerk.com/shredder9_test.htm
>>>      Regards
>>>      Kurt
>>
>>Hi Kurt,
>>
>>yes and I think you did a great job.
>>I personally prefer longer times controls as unless you use an extremely fast
>>computer you cannot get the most in the search as the depth would not be enough.
>>I understand however that in order to get enough games it is necessary to speed
>>up time controls as much as possible.
>>
>>Ciao
>>Sandro
>
>Hi Sandro,
>
>Can you please post Deep Shredder 9 Columbus egg 9L Settings .
>Regards
>Enam.

Hi Enam,

OK:

Columbus' egg 9L (Lyon)

by Sandro Necchi

Queen = 99
100
Rook = 99
100
Bishop = 98
100
Knight = 99
100
Pawn = 100
100
Style = intelligent
Combinations = all
Forward pruning = 3
Selectivity = -1
Draw score = 0
King safety = 122
Center control = 112
Pawn structure = 103
103
Passed pawns = 110
112
Bishop pair = 101
100
Time usage = 100
Knowledge or speed = 80
Threads = 1

Kurt,

the score of the match against Fritz 9 after 39 games, not so far from 50 is:

Columbus' egg 9L - Fritz 9 = 24 - 15 (+16, =16, -7) 61.5% TP = +81 Elo

So, this seems a better score so far than std. Shredder 9 setting would do.

Ciao
Sandro




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