Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 22:35:47 11/09/05
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On November 09, 2005 at 15:32:08, Enam wrote: >On November 08, 2005 at 13:19:26, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>On November 08, 2005 at 02:22:37, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On November 08, 2005 at 02:01:56, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>> >>>>On November 08, 2005 at 01:39:25, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 07, 2005 at 13:32:29, Sandro Necchi wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>>I think I have improved Columbus' egg 9g with the latest 9L (Lyon) version. >>>>>> >>>>>>I am testing it against "Fritz friend" (Fritz 9) at 90 minutes game on 2 equal >>>>>>AMD XP 3000+, so similar to SSDF on A1200 >>>>>> >>>>>>Columbus' egg 9L + Shrddr10.bkt prc (preliminary c version) - Fritz 9 = 7 - 4 >>>>>>(+5, =4, -2) 63.6% TP = +97 Elo >>>>>> >>>>>>P.N. >>>>>> >>>>>>1. Shredder10 prc is in std. mode, so not the strongest mode! >>>>>> >>>>>>2. The improvements on Columbus' egg 9L are mainly strategical in the first >>>>>>part/middle game as the new settings are more refined. >>>>>> >>>>>>If this version will score very well after several games I will post the >>>>>>settings. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ciao >>>>>>Sandro >>>>> >>>>> Hi Sandro >>>>> You are very courageous to conclude something >>>>> out of 11 games only. In our Fruit 2.2.1 test >>>>> Fritz 9 lost in the first 10 games with 2,0-8,0 >>>>> but was almost equal after 50 games. In my >>>>> Nunn2 match, Fritz 9 won the first serie vs >>>>> Fruit 2.2.1 with 8,0-2,0 only to loose the >>>>> second serie with 3,0-7,0 and from such experience >>>>> I can't take matches under 50 games seriously. A >>>>> further good examply of how things can go/vary >>>>> to be seen at my comments re our RK 2004 tournament >>>>> http://www.utzingerk.com/rk_2004_english.htm >>>>> Regards >>>>> Kurt >>>> >>>>Hi Kurt, >>>> >>>>sorry but I said "I think", not I am sure. So you cannot say that I concluded >>>>something, however I made several tests before starting the match looking this >>>>setting on several positions, so I was not relying on this score, but on a >>>>overall judgement. >>>> >>>>Just for your info the score now is: >>>> >>>>Columbus' egg 9L + SH10-prc (std mode) - Fritz 9 = 11.5 - 5.5 (+8, =7, -2) 67.7% >>>>TP = +128 Elo >>>> >>>>P.N. I am not saying this version with the improved book is +128 Elo points >>>>stronger, but just reporting what is written in the top row of the interface so >>>>far. >>>> >>>>Ciao >>>>Sandro >>> >>> >>> Hi Sandro >>> Thanks for your additional information >>> BTW: Have you seen that in our Shredder 9 >>> test we have already played 1,300 games >>> at time control 40'/40 >>> http://www.utzingerk.com/shredder9_test.htm >>> Regards >>> Kurt >> >>Hi Kurt, >> >>yes and I think you did a great job. >>I personally prefer longer times controls as unless you use an extremely fast >>computer you cannot get the most in the search as the depth would not be enough. >>I understand however that in order to get enough games it is necessary to speed >>up time controls as much as possible. >> >>Ciao >>Sandro > >Hi Sandro, > >Can you please post Deep Shredder 9 Columbus egg 9L Settings . >Regards >Enam. Hi Enam, OK: Columbus' egg 9L (Lyon) by Sandro Necchi Queen = 99 100 Rook = 99 100 Bishop = 98 100 Knight = 99 100 Pawn = 100 100 Style = intelligent Combinations = all Forward pruning = 3 Selectivity = -1 Draw score = 0 King safety = 122 Center control = 112 Pawn structure = 103 103 Passed pawns = 110 112 Bishop pair = 101 100 Time usage = 100 Knowledge or speed = 80 Threads = 1 Kurt, the score of the match against Fritz 9 after 39 games, not so far from 50 is: Columbus' egg 9L - Fritz 9 = 24 - 15 (+16, =16, -7) 61.5% TP = +81 Elo So, this seems a better score so far than std. Shredder 9 setting would do. Ciao Sandro
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