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Subject: Re: Fun Rating List........... Fruit 2.2.1

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 07:02:47 11/10/05

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On November 10, 2005 at 08:02:19, Chessfun wrote:

>On November 10, 2005 at 04:39:11, Joachim Rang wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>    Program                   Elo    +   -   Games   Score   Av.Op.  Draws
>>>
>>>  1 Fruit 2.2.1             : 2710   50  49   119    67.6 %   2582   39.5 %
>>>  2 Fruit 2.2               : 2691   41  40   174    64.9 %   2584   40.2 %
>>>  3 Fritz 9                 : 2682   31  31   310    62.4 %   2594   38.4 %
>>
>>Interesting to see that so far on your rating list there is a difference between
>>2.2. and 2.2.1. I'm curious whether it will hold with more games.
>>
>>Joachim
>
>They will both end playing the same amount of games against the same opponents.
>But the margin of error will still be very high. Obviously there is a difference
>since one is probing tablebases the other not. My guess is that 2.2.1 must be
>better only question is by how much. Another 10 days probably before these are
>both finished.
>
>Interestingly the scores against some programs are totally opposite
>
>Individual statistics:
>
>1 Fruit 2.2.1               : 2710  119 (+ 57,= 47,- 15), 67.6 %
>
>Nimzo 8                       :   4 (+  0,=  3,-  1), 37.5 %
>Hiarcs 7.32                   :   4 (+  1,=  1,-  2), 37.5 %
>Chess Tiger 14.0              :   4 (+  3,=  0,-  1), 75.0 %
>Gambit Tiger 2.0              :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>Junior 7                      :   5 (+  3,=  2,-  0), 80.0 %
>Fritz 7                       :   5 (+  2,=  3,-  0), 70.0 %
>Hiarcs 8                      :   4 (+  0,=  4,-  0), 50.0 %
>Shredder Paderborn            :   4 (+  1,=  1,-  2), 37.5 %
>Shredder 7                    :   5 (+  2,=  3,-  0), 70.0 %
>List 504                      :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>Junior 8                      :   5 (+  2,=  2,-  1), 60.0 %
>Hiarcs 9                      :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>Hiarcs8 Bareev                :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>Ruffian Leiden2003            :   4 (+  2,=  2,-  0), 75.0 %
>Shredder 8                    :   5 (+  2,=  2,-  1), 60.0 %
>SOS 4 for Arena               :   4 (+  4,=  0,-  0), 100.0 %
>Ruffian 2.1.0                 :   4 (+  2,=  1,-  1), 62.5 %
>List 512                      :   4 (+  2,=  2,-  0), 75.0 %
>Ruffian 2.0.2                 :   4 (+  0,=  1,-  3), 12.5 %
>Crafty 19.08                  :   4 (+  3,=  1,-  0), 87.5 %
>Fritz in Bahrain              :   5 (+  2,=  3,-  0), 70.0 %
>Fritz 8 Bilbao                :   5 (+  0,=  5,-  0), 50.0 %
>Junior 9                      :   5 (+  2,=  3,-  0), 70.0 %
>X3D Fritz                     :   5 (+  4,=  1,-  0), 90.0 %
>Shredder 9                    :   5 (+  3,=  0,-  2), 60.0 %
>Toga II 1.0                   :   5 (+  2,=  3,-  0), 70.0 %
>Crafty 19.19                  :   4 (+  3,=  0,-  1), 75.0 %
>
>2 Fruit 2.2                 : 2691  174 (+ 78,= 70,- 26), 64.9 %
>
>Nimzo 8                       :   6 (+  5,=  1,-  0), 91.7 %
>Hiarcs 7.32                   :   6 (+  3,=  2,-  1), 66.7 %
>Chess Tiger 14.0              :   6 (+  0,=  6,-  0), 50.0 %
>Gambit Tiger 2.0              :   6 (+  1,=  4,-  1), 50.0 %
>Junior 7                      :   6 (+  6,=  0,-  0), 100.0 %
>Fritz 7                       :   6 (+  1,=  5,-  0), 58.3 %
>Hiarcs 8                      :   6 (+  2,=  4,-  0), 66.7 %
>Shredder Paderborn            :   6 (+  5,=  1,-  0), 91.7 %
>Shredder 7                    :   6 (+  4,=  1,-  1), 75.0 %
>List 504                      :   6 (+  3,=  1,-  2), 58.3 %
>Junior 8                      :   6 (+  3,=  2,-  1), 66.7 %
>Hiarcs 9                      :   6 (+  1,=  4,-  1), 50.0 %
>Hiarcs8 Bareev                :   6 (+  4,=  1,-  1), 75.0 %
>Ruffian Leiden2003            :   6 (+  3,=  1,-  2), 58.3 %
>Shredder 8                    :   6 (+  1,=  3,-  2), 41.7 %
>SOS 4 for Arena               :   6 (+  2,=  1,-  3), 41.7 %
>Ruffian 2.1.0                 :   6 (+  1,=  5,-  0), 58.3 %
>List 512                      :   6 (+  3,=  3,-  0), 75.0 %
>Ruffian 2.0.2                 :   6 (+  2,=  3,-  1), 58.3 %
>Crafty 19.08                  :   6 (+  6,=  0,-  0), 100.0 %
>Fritz in Bahrain              :   6 (+  1,=  3,-  2), 41.7 %
>Fritz 8 Bilbao                :   6 (+  2,=  4,-  0), 66.7 %
>Junior 9                      :   6 (+  3,=  2,-  1), 66.7 %
>X3D Fritz                     :   6 (+  1,=  4,-  1), 50.0 %
>Shredder 9                    :   7 (+  1,=  3,-  3), 35.7 %
>Toga II 1.0                   :   7 (+  3,=  3,-  1), 64.3 %
>Fritz 9                       :  10 (+  6,=  2,-  2), 70.0 %
>Crafty 19.19                  :   6 (+  5,=  1,-  0), 91.7 %
>
>Sarah.


Hi Sarah,

I'm looking forward for the result after each version played the same opponents.
Btw, when do you plan to update your rating list on your website?

Joachim



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