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Subject: Re: Stunning!?

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 05:41:34 11/11/05

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On November 11, 2005 at 07:50:24, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 11, 2005 at 07:40:42, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On November 11, 2005 at 07:33:15, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>This is stunning, when other testers have reported normally Fruit - Junior
>>>to about 70 - 30.
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>      Hi Jouni
>>      Not necessarily: you know SSDF are testing
>>      the whole package with own books, learning on,
>>      ponder=on and thus partly not the strength of
>>      the engines but more the goodness of the opening
>>      books ... and Junior 9 is one of the engines to
>>      benefit more than other programs from its rather
>>      limited opening book repeating won lines many
>>      times in a match thus sometimes producing doubles.
>>      Regards
>>      Kurt [http://www.utzingerk.com]
>
>I did not know that opening book help Junior so much.
>
>I knew that fruit performed clearly better than Junior also when own books were
>used
>
>see http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?460698
>
>I did not follow the games to check for doubles but I remember matches when
>Fruit beated Fritz9 or Shredder9 convincingly when original opening book were
>used and the result of the ssdf are surprising.
>
>Maybe Fruit does not like the athlon1200 and it may be interesting to know if it
>earns more speed from faster hardware relative to Fritz or Junior or Shredder.
>
>Uri


      Hi Uri
      Some further explanations: still too less
      games / Junior 9 benefits more than Fruit
      from ponder=on / pure accident
      Regards
      Kurt



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