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Subject: Re: OK, computers are stupid but humans too? Zappa-The King

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 10:08:13 11/12/05

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On November 12, 2005 at 13:02:23, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On November 12, 2005 at 12:53:31, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 2005 at 10:31:53, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>
>>>On November 12, 2005 at 10:22:44, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 12, 2005 at 10:13:46, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I see that Zappa-The King continues from a completely drawn position......
>>>>>Computers will keep playing it but why their operators are so stubborn?
>>>>>
>>>>>The game should stop from 43th move or earlier.......What a waste of time:-(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is not so stupid as you think. I remember games where one of the programs was
>>>>loosing with a -5 score and it won the game finally.
>>>>
>>>>It is possible the operator thougt that the complete point was important and it
>>>>was trying to win by time out or a possible bug in the other engine.
>>>
>>> That kind of thinking is not what Chess or computer Chess has to be! This is a
>>>bad, very bad sportsmanship.....!
>>
>>It is not matter of matter of thoughts. The point is you can need that point to
>>get a better position in the Tournament and you can use that if your opponent
>>doesnt know how to handle that situation.
>>
>>Today, The King managed to draw the game despite of the Zappa Operatior
>>stubborness to win the game.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>If you think that it is so stupid to win a complete point gambling in a possible
>>>>mistake of the opponent, then your question is more stupid than I though it was.
>>>
>>> Again, having a complete draw-position and praying for a bug or time loss is
>>>very bad behaviour.......!
>>> And since you think that my question would be stupid i can conclude that you
>>>approve this behaviour. I have another opinion: Yes to try to win, but always
>>>with an elegant way!
>>
>>Tell me in what rule of the FIDE is forbidden to press the opponent when he is
>>in a hurry because of the time.
>
> No i don't say it's illegal i just say it is not the correct behaviour, yet,
>ONLY if the position will be a clear draw (i'm not speaking about insufficient
>material draws).
>
>>The best players in the world have used this
>>technique to press the opponent or to try to save a half of point. Example, I
>>remember now a game between Korchnoi-Karpov in Baguio City. Korchnoi was in a
>>hurry of time but I could checkmate the Black King in 3. Karpov gambled and move
>>the king to the center. Korchnoi blunder and the game finished draw. It save 0.5
>>points. Is it a bad practice? No, because he needed to save that game.
>
>That's anonther story. I'm not speaking about that kind of situations. I'm
>speaking about positions that are clear draws with easy play. No real
>grandmaster or Chess player would continue such a game, blitz or not.....

Is Nakamura not a real Grandmaster? :)

Michael



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