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Subject: Re: Elite Avant Garde 68060

Author: Steve B

Date: 10:18:25 11/12/05

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>As far as I know you don't collect computers like the Millenium or this one:
>http://cgi.ebay.com/Orion-2000-Chess-Set-Battery-Powered-Play-the-Experts_W0QQitemZ8717572291QQcategoryZ2554QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

>To be honest I don't see any great difference to CC 3, except that the latter is
>old.


no there is a big difference

you must remember Martin,i am not collecting for 2-3 years like most new
collectors and perhaps even you

i am collecting from the beginning in 1977..and have continued to this day
while there might be collectors with better collections then mine there are none
collecting longer then me

i bought my CC3 when it was FIRST released in 1978

then even having a computer that could play the moves was amazing

now these old computers have some value and interest because they were the first
and serve an historical purpose
its like collecting anything such as stamps or books

the earlier the more interesting..the ones first breaking the 1500 Elo ceiling
or 1700 Elo..all were milestones and much heralded in their day

however in sharp contrast to a CC3 these Millenium computers are junk and have
no historical significance and are a sad result of what happened to the
dedicated computer market  once the PC programs became stronger
i know of no collectors interested in these computers with one exception being
Karsten as i think he will try to collect every computer ever released and also
including modified,prototypes etc etc



i realize its hard for someone new to the hobby(by "new" i mean someone actively
collecting for less then 5 years) too look backwards and see all of the
computers that were made and try to collect these

it is an almost impossible task in terms of time and money so limits must be
made ..if i were just starting out i too would limit myself..but i was there
from the first day so of course i have many of them already from 28 Years of
collecting
and for MOST of my collection i paid the brand new just released price
which is far greater then what they will be worth today


>
>Yes, I should try that too... with Sensory CC 9, Mephisto III, Renaissance,
>B&P.... hmm. Nice idea. :)

good i am glad you can get a new idea to enjoy even more your computers from an
old collector like me
>
>
>>i am hoping also
>>but ..sigh..dont rely on him too much
>>as i mentioned to you awhile ago..when your first thought Sept..

1977 Regards
Steve



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