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Subject: Re: H7 & Chess4You

Author: Roland Boehm

Date: 08:51:38 03/18/99

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On March 17, 1999 at 16:03:42, Mark Young wrote:

>On March 17, 1999 at 15:46:30, Dirk Frickenschmidt wrote:
>
>>On March 17, 1999 at 15:30:58, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On March 17, 1999 at 15:03:31, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have an email from chess4you that says you can play Hiarcs 7 on the server as
>>>>long as you have a (C) on your handle.
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully, the controversy is over.
>>>
>>>I hope this is over to, and they do not think of taking such stupid actions in
>>>the future.
>>>
>>>Mark Young
>>
>>Hi Mark,
>>
>>as far as I understood, the only thing they wanted from you was to log off and
>>log in again, in order to install the (C) for computer account with your handle,
>>which the main operator forgot at first.
>>
>>On Gambit Soft's site he apologized for the inconvenience while clarifying that
>>they never asked you to stay off with Hiarcs7...
>
>I wish this was so dirk, and that would not have been a problem. Except I was
>never asked to log off so they could put a C on my account.
>
>I was told plain and simple in big red letters as tells shows up on the
>Chess4You server. "Make this your last game against other Chess4You computer
>accounts, Hiarcs7 is too strong to play on this server, and your rating will be
>changed to bring it into line with what it should be"

Mr.Young

I cannot reconstruct the tells between or admin and you. It is quite obvious to
me that there must have occured a misunderstanding. But your reaction
is unacceptable:

Why did you log out instead of waiting for my answer?
Why did you not ask the other admin?
Why did you not send a message to  me or the other present admin?
Why did you not send an email to Olib or me instead of publishing
accusations in a newsgroup?
Why did you not cut and paste the tells of CheckOneDo?
From where did you cut and paste the message to Olib?
Why do you give as "evidence" such a message?
A cut and paste from the Chess4You site?!


In the messages box of your user list you see the messages you receive and not
the messages you send !

 If you send a message to Olib it looks like this:

The following message was sent to Olib:
  test

So would you please inform me where you cut this message from?

And our Netlog protocol shows that Olib was not logged in at that time!!!

 Olib logged out on Saturday 13 at 23:34MET
and logged in again at 01:12MET. He was not logged in at 00:34 or 00:45
Logged in where three other admins which telled with you.

And you cannot tell with a person that is not online!

Not even the words of "your" message say that you are banned.
You lost one (1) game because you did not follow the instructions of
CheckOneDo. CheckOneDo would have set you on the noplay list of our
programs if he had wanted to prevent you from playing our programs at all.
You played without a (C), against a human player too, and did not let correct
us that mistake. And that is why  you lost one single game.

>
><Cut and paste from the Chess4You site>
>Messages to OliB:
>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:35 MET: Hello, Can you help me. Checkonedo
>has said he is changing my rating and I can no longer play other computers on
>this network. He will not talk to me or tell me why.
>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:38 MET: Why is my rating being Changed. I
>am on other chess networks and have never had this happen to me. Checkonedo says
>my ratings are wrong, but a +200 to +300 rating over crafty programs is what I
>have on other
>\   chess playing sites like FICS, Chessnet, ICC. Can you help me, this is
>unfair.
>DoomsDayMachine at Sun Mar 14 1999, 0:42 MET: And I can't understand why the
>admin messages me this in a game, not to play anymore games and he is changing
>my rating, then will not responed to my tells when I try to find out why he is
>doing this. Thank you
>\   for your help.
>
>You have no messages from OliB.

You have no messages from OliB???

Where do you want to have cut that from?

>
>Dirk, please help me, This is the message I got from Checkonedo, the admin at
>Chess4you. Do you see anywhere in there about just logging off the Chess4You
>site so they could put a "C" on my account.

You got this message from CheckOneDo?
A message to Olib?
I cannot believe this!

>
>This was never brought up until they needed a story to cover their actions,
>after I went public with how they were treating their customers.
>
>I was told plain and simple that Hiarcs7 could not play on the chess4you site,
>because Hiarcs7 was to strong and beating up their home computer accounts.
>
>Mark Young
>
>
>
>>
>>Hope I could help, and have fun in testing...
>>
>>
>>Regards from
>>Dirk


errol
Chess4You



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