Author: stuart taylor
Date: 14:06:21 11/12/05
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On November 12, 2005 at 16:44:38, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >When autoplaying Fruit 2.2.1 vs Shredder 8 on my 1.5 Ghz AMD 512 MB machine and >alloting 64 MB RAM for 4 minute Blitz chess, I noticed that Fruit 2.2.1 scores >about 50 elo points stronger than Shredder 8 when it uses its own Book.bin 1.4 >MB opening book vs the Shredder's native Shredder8.ctg opening book. On the >other hand, Fruit 2.2.1 scores 50 elo points weaker than Shredder 8 when both >programs use the Shredder 8 opening book. > >I am sure that Fruit is an excellent program and has a slightly different >playing style than Shredder with often differing evaluation scores. I also >notice that Fruit 2.2.1 is doing 50% more node searches than Shredder 8 on the >same processor with pondering off. I assume that Fruit 2.2.1 is using more >refined knowledge-based algorithms than Shredder 8. Nevertheless, the fact that >Fruit 2.2.1 does better with its own book suggests than book tuning is in >effect. And also HAS an effect! So I would say that the stronger machine should be stronger, even with NO opening book. (I wouldn't insist that every machine should use a worse opening book, or one that is better suited to a different engine.) Then, it's OK if opening book makes it even better. So what happens if Shredder 8 uses Fruit 2.2.1 opening book? S.Taylor > >I am impressed with Fruit 2.2.1 and would pay twenty dollars more for Fritz 9 if >Fruit 2.2.1 was included as a secondary engine. I may pay the $33.xx USD fee >within the next 13 days if Chessbase doesn't include Fruit 2.2.1 with Fritz 9. > >Sincerely, > >Uncle Timbo > >PS If Lucien could sell 100,000 copies at an extra $10.00-$15.00 USD profit from >his program bundled with Fritz 9 the guy could have a cool $1,000,000.00 USD >within one year. He could then retire to a tropical island like that fellow >Christophe Theron. Perhaps he could even buy a Jaguar.
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