Author: chandler yergin
Date: 19:56:04 11/12/05
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On November 12, 2005 at 13:02:23, George Tsavdaris wrote: >On November 12, 2005 at 12:53:31, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>On November 12, 2005 at 10:31:53, George Tsavdaris wrote: >> >>>On November 12, 2005 at 10:22:44, Arturo Ochoa wrote: >>> >>>>On November 12, 2005 at 10:13:46, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>>> >>>>>I see that Zappa-The King continues from a completely drawn position...... >>>>>Computers will keep playing it but why their operators are so stubborn? >>>>> >>>>>The game should stop from 43th move or earlier.......What a waste of time:-( >>>>> >>>> >>>>It is not so stupid as you think. I remember games where one of the programs was >>>>loosing with a -5 score and it won the game finally. >>>> >>>>It is possible the operator thougt that the complete point was important and it >>>>was trying to win by time out or a possible bug in the other engine. >>> >>> That kind of thinking is not what Chess or computer Chess has to be! This is a >>>bad, very bad sportsmanship.....! >> >>It is not matter of matter of thoughts. The point is you can need that point to >>get a better position in the Tournament and you can use that if your opponent >>doesnt know how to handle that situation. >> >>Today, The King managed to draw the game despite of the Zappa Operatior >>stubborness to win the game. >> >>> >>>> >>>>If you think that it is so stupid to win a complete point gambling in a possible >>>>mistake of the opponent, then your question is more stupid than I though it was. >>> >>> Again, having a complete draw-position and praying for a bug or time loss is >>>very bad behaviour.......! >>> And since you think that my question would be stupid i can conclude that you >>>approve this behaviour. I have another opinion: Yes to try to win, but always >>>with an elegant way! >> >>Tell me in what rule of the FIDE is forbidden to press the opponent when he is >>in a hurry because of the time. > > No i don't say it's illegal i just say it is not the correct behaviour, yet, >ONLY if the position will be a clear draw (i'm not speaking about insufficient >material draws). > >>The best players in the world have used this >>technique to press the opponent or to try to save a half of point. Example, I >>remember now a game between Korchnoi-Karpov in Baguio City. Korchnoi was in a >>hurry of time but I could checkmate the Black King in 3. Karpov gambled and move >>the king to the center. Korchnoi blunder and the game finished draw. It save 0.5 >>points. Is it a bad practice? No, because he needed to save that game. > >That's anonther story. I'm not speaking about that kind of situations. I'm >speaking about positions that are clear draws with easy play. No real >grandmaster or Chess player would continue such a game, blitz or not..... If they play by the Rules.. what's the problem? Resign and draw proposals A player can resign the game, which means that he has lost and his opponent has won. After making a move, a player can propose a draw: his opponent can accept the proposal (in which case the game ends and is a draw) or refuse the proposal (in which case the game continues). Repetition of moves If the same position with the same player to move is repeated three times in the game, the player to move can claim a draw. (When the right to make a certain castling move is lost by one of the players between positions, then the positions are considered to be different. For the fine points of this rule, see the official rules of chess.) > >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>>> >>>>Arturo Ochoa M.
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