Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: DCCC 25th : a few comments from a Fruit's friend.

Author: Ryan B.

Date: 02:40:06 11/13/05

Go up one level in this thread


On November 13, 2005 at 05:26:56, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On November 13, 2005 at 04:57:19, Marc Lacrosse wrote:
>
>>If Fruit cannot
>>manage to win its three remaining games this tournament will be a real black
>>stone in Fruit's garden.
>
>Might be a bit of bad luck, might be the opponents starting to put their fingers
>on Fruit's weaknesses. The game against Diep was probably not a coincidence,
>Vincent can see these kind of things very well. The same happened in the WCCC
>btw.
>
>>At the opposite, Zappa's comeback is a near-perfect demonstration.
>
>Yup. The World Champion is confirming his status. We'll have to see if this
>keeps up, but my impression is that Zappa, unlike Fruit, has no known weak
>points. Especially so if it's running on a 4 cpu machine ;-)
>

Maybe because we dont have access to the newest Zappa.  Give me 100 games and I
am sure I will some weak point.

>>3. Zappa-Fruit is a well-deserved win for Zappa. Fruit went on in a difficult
>>defensive position. At move 12, Fruit opted for the passive 12...e6 although
>>12...Qb6 has had better practical results in human master games recently.
>>[D] r2q1rk1/1p1n1ppp/2p1p1b1/p7/Pb1PP3/2N1BP2/1P2B1PP/R2Q1RK1 w
>>Here Zappa's 15.Rc1 was a good new move after which Fruit's 15...Qc7 goes
>>directly into problems on the c file. After that 16...Rad8 was mandatory to
>>avoid d5 but fruit played another dubious move (16...Rfe8) and Zappa did not
>>miss the opportunity to take a clear positional and soon material advantage with
>>17.d5!
>>I do not know where was the end of Fruit's prepared book line in this game but
>>it clearly led to a difficult position where fruit was not able to find its way.
>
>I think Qc7 was the first move out of book, with Fruit showing white up 0.7.
>
>>4. Fruit-Diep is another example of questionable book choice. I have had dozens
>>of private games where Fruit did not find the good balance between timed
>>agression on the king-side and necessary defensive measures on the queen side in
>>such opposite-castling sicilian positions. I think it is extremely dangerous to
>>venture with fruit in such positions against first-class opponents.
>
>I think small improvements in the program would give much better results than
>fixing the book (for this particular problem). It took Bob a few years and 20
>Crafty versions to realize this :-P
>

I agree, in this case I think it is an issue of king tropism.  Calculating
attacks on 8 squares around the king can only do so much.

>>6. But Fruit has also already had good games with good opening preparation.
>>Against ProDeo Fruit went for an early highly speculative exchange sacrifice:
>>[D] r1bq1rk1/ppp3bp/2np2p1/1B2pp1n/4P3/2PP1N2/PP3PPP/R1BQRNK1 w
>>Here the play continued with 10.Bg5 Bf6 11.Bh6 after which Fruit's strange 11...
>>fxe4 12.Bxf8 exf3 13.Bh6 fxg2 14.Ne3 Ne7 led to a difficult to evaluate position
>>where Fruit prettily outplayed its opponent. If this was prepared, then this was
>>genial opening prep perfectly tailored to Fruit's qualities.
>
>Hmm, it was a Jeroen vs. Jeroen opening, and he generally aims for equal
>positions with lots of play in those cases. But his book is big and his memory
>is not perfect, I guess. Or maybe something else happened, I'm sure he'll
>clarify.
>
>--
>GCP



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.